Dear colleagues,
Whilst I've read the responses so far with great delight, I cannot help thinking that some of this relates to the discipline nature of REF. Much wisdom, research and publication has long taken place (as the emails on this list provided evidence of), but the REF is organised in units of assessment which are discipline specific. I wonder whether it is discipline specific pedagogical research is felt to be 'emergent' rather than the research on pedagogical matters more broadly. And to what extend is such research embedded in the discipline specific publication means that would be recognised by REF panels?
Gwen van der Velden
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Dear colleagues
Thank you so much for your detailed, thoughtful and varied replies. I am delighted that I didn't offer to summarise these as I am not sure I could, however I think some intriguing sub questions are surfacing around how we define pedagogic research (some interesting views being expressed as to the level of education we mean and the kinds of activities we offer). Having feared it was a daft question I am delighted I asked it as it raises all sorts of thoughts in my head as to what we exclude by certain kinds of research label and what happens to people like Dewey and Winnicott, and a whole heap of others if they don't fit these labels. Dispiriting to hear colleagues feel their efforts in this field are dismissed on a similar basis.
Your contributions much appreciated!
Alison
Dr Alison James
Associate Dean Learning and Teaching
London College of Fashion
National Teaching Fellow 2014
> On 20 Jan 2015, at 13:04, Andy Wright <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> Is it not possible that any description of contemporary (since 2000) pedagogic research as "emergent" is influenced by the emergent nature of the web technologies about which a lot of the research is concerned, not the actual research itself?
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> Andy
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> Perhaps this discussion is focussed on the wrong issue? Could it be that 'emergent' has nothing to do with chronology, and everything to do with positioning (Cf Phil Race's earlier wonderfully satirical quip). Taking the Collins definition of 'emerge', is there any merit in this thought?
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> 1. to come up to the surface of or rise from water or other liquid
> Pedagogic research is typically bottom-up, practitioner-led and conducted beneath the interest levels, resourcing priorities, or KPIs of senior administrators, policy makers or funding agencies
> 2. to come into view, as from concealment or obscurity
> Pedagogic research only rarely attracts media interest, proper public recognition, or individual reward
> 4. (followed by from) to come out (of) or live (through a difficult experience)
> Pedagogic research is often stimulated by real world dilemmas experienced by practitioners seeking to live through (yet another) ill-advised policy shift
> 5. to become apparent
> When pedagogic research does come into view, the outcomes are immediately dismissed as "obvious and just common sense, which we all knew anyway"
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> A really interesting question and discussion with no simple answers I think. However, it does seem that the use of the term 'pedagogic research' - especially in relation to HE - probably is relatively recent. There certainly seems to have been an upturn in its usage in the early 2000s - possibly deriving from the start of the TQEF scheme in 1999: http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20100202100434/http://hefce.ac.uk/pubs/rdreports/2005/rd23_05/
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> However, journals specialising on research in HE date back to:
> 1976 (Studies in HE)
> 1973 (Research in HE)
> 1972 (Higher Education) and
> 1964 (Innovations in Education and Teaching International) This seems broadly similar to more general education journals:
> AERA (1964), BERA (1975), but clearly a very recent phenomenon compared to journals such as Nature (1869)! However, all seem to pre-date the RAE/REF by quite some period so describing as 'emergent' in that sense arguably dubious.
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> Hope this helps.
> Best wishes,
> Debby
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> Debby Cotton
> Professor of Higher Education and Head of Educational Development, Pedagogic Research Institute and Observatory (PedRIO),
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> http://www.plymouth.ac.uk/staff/dcotton
> Sub editor: Journal of Geography in Higher Education Follow me on Twitter: @ProfDcotton
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> Dear everyone
>
> I have recently attended meetings to discuss outcomes from REF and heard pedagogical research described as 'new' or 'emergent'. This may well be in relation to another discipline but has surprised me - does anyone know if the field of pedagogical research under this defined name has a particular 'start date'? Calling it new seems to exclude some of the great thinkers and philosophers on how we teach and learn.
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> Would be very pleased to hear your thoughts if you would like to reply to me directly.
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> All best
>
> Alison
>
> Dr Alison James
> Associate Dean Learning and Teaching
> London College of Fashion
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