At Aston we have a similar position to Newcastle. We discussed this point at our University L&T committee and decided that the PGCert and FHEA were not equivalent. The PGCert at Aston is compulsory for all staff that are new to teaching and serves a different, but complimentary, purpose to the CPD route at Aston for Fellowship. We want to use our accredited scheme to encourage our staff to keep engaging in L&T over their careers at Aston, and hopefully strive to gain SFHEA and PFHEA in due course. It is possible to record both on the University system/HESA returns and we feel that this valuable.
Regards,
Anne
Director, Centre for Learning Innovation and Professional Practice
Aston University
On 28 Feb 2013, at 18:10, "Richard Young" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> It seems to me that within around 12 months the Academy will have a very good idea of where and how the Professional Standards for those teaching and supporting learning in HE are being used - that is surely their focus. If and how that will be made public is less clear to me, though HESA data will provide some of the information as Peter says.
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> As Graham indicates, whether people use a PG Certificate as a route to the standards would seem to be no longer very relevant from the Academy's perspective. At Newcastle we have decided that a PG Certificate route remains a valuable form of initial professional development; like others we are also aiming to integrate that effectively with other CPD over a range of academic practice. Part of our PG Certificate is compulsory, Jane.
>
> If as I suppose, each institution wishes to decide on its own model then because the UK PSF accreditation is of the institution and not of the programme, it is now less useful to compare requirements to undertake programmes. In the same vein and in response to Penny, equity/ consistency of treatment across an institution is important for accreditation and I imagine will also be for Institutional Audit purposes.
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> For what it's worth, I think it is not very likely that PG Certs of any kind will be distinguished from PSF achievements in league tables.
>
> Yours,
> Richard.
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Online forum for SEDA, the Staff & Educational Development
>> Association [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Burden, Penny
>> Sent: 28 February 2013 10:12
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: UK PG certs: compulsory or not?
>>
>> But is the question more about practice within individual institutions?
>> Are PGCerts compulsory for staff working in particular universities?
>> This is something I am very interested in as our new Education Strategy
>> states that staff new to teaching are required to complete the PGCert as
>> a condition of probation. At present, some Faculties in my institution
>> do make this a condition of probation but it isn't consistent across the
>> University as far as I can see.
>>
>> Penny
>>
>>
>> Penny Burden
>> PL/Course Director PGCLTHE
>> Academic Development Centre
>> Kingston University
>> Millennium House
>> ext. 62773
>>
>> 0208 4172773
>> http://www.kingston.ac.uk/academic-development-centre/postgraduate-
>> certificate/
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Online forum for SEDA, the Staff & Educational Development
>> Association [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Fran Beaton
>> Sent: 28 February 2013 10:05
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: UK PG certs: compulsory or not?
>>
>> I absolutely endorse this - the HEAS must surely keep lists and details
>> of the programme they accredit......... mustn't they?
>>
>> Fran
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Online forum for SEDA, the Staff & Educational Development
>> Association [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Graham Lewis [gjl]
>> Sent: 28 February 2013 09:58
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: UK PG certs: compulsory or not?
>>
>> I keep saying this, but the HEA should be able to provide us with this
>> sort of national picture. Most PGCerts are accredited by them or form
>> part of local CPD frameworks that are also accredired by HEA.
>>
>> Graham
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Online forum for SEDA, the Staff & Educational Development
>> Association [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jane MacKenzie
>> Sent: 27 February 2013 15:46
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: UK PG certs: compulsory or not?
>>
>> Hello everyone
>>
>> I know this has been discussed on the SEDA list before but can anyone
>> point me in the direction of some info about what proportion of UK HEIs
>> currently have compulsory PGCerts as part of academic probation. Apols
>> if there is a really obvious way of finding this...
>>
>> David Gosling's paper from 2011
>> http://www.davidgosling.net/default.asp?iId=KEHLH states that 62.2% of
>> HEIs make the pgcert mandatory (at least on paper) but I was wondering
>> if there has been a shift over the past couple of years with the changes
>> in HEA structures and processes and the requirement in England and Wales
>> to report teaching qualifications to HESA. This would make me think
>> that the number of compulsory pg certs would be on the increase yet with
>> the introduction of CPD frameworks the converse might be true.
>>
>> Any pointers/info gratefully received.
>>
>> Cheers, jane
>>
>> Dr Jane MacKenzie
>> Head of Academic Development Unit
>>
>> Learning and Teaching Centre
>> University of Glasgow
>> 64 Southpark Avenue,
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>> Tel: 0141-330 4863
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