Dear Alison,
Thank you for the helpful additions to the list.  I do not
see the list as a tick box list or a list of areas for
which we need to find remedies! I wrote it in order to get
a feel for the full extent of this thing that we expect
students to undertake without, in many cases, much support.
I was surprised to find that the list grew to this size!

In the work I am doing at present, I am linking writing to
a range of thought activities (as does Sally Mitchell in
her work at Queen Mary's. Sally's web site on
thinking- writing is brilliant by the way).  I am
interested to think about how writing and thinking
interlink and how the demands on both change through the
course of undergraduate and postgraduate programmes.  What
students need to do / know / understand about the processes
at level 1/C is very different from what they need at level
3 / H...or Master's.

Cheers   Jenny



On Thu,
17 Feb 2005 09:17:16 -0000 Alison Green
<[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Hello Jenny,
>
> I have a few more to add to this impressive (but scary) list although
> you may already consider some of these to be implicit:
>
> Writing objectives
> Writing to illustrate how/why one met/failed to meet objectives
> Writing in a second language
> Relevant writing ie writing to answer the question
> Editing/writing within word constraints
>
> You use the term 'academic conventions'. Quite right, but a lot of
> students see some of them as academic constraints so I would suggest
> that 'retaining individuality (style?) within academic constraints' is
> an area worth examining. I see a lot of students with really good ideas
> and a total grasp of content/concepts who have real problems expressing
> themselves (in writing)in the way that academics demand. It is, of
> course, my job to advise on many of the skills in your list in order to
> 'remedy' the problem. However, I do worry sometimes that regimentation
> is supressing innovation and imagination. Or am I missing the whole
> raison d'etre of study skills support?
>
> Alison
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: learning development in higher education network
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jennifer Moon
> Sent: 17 February 2005 08:36
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Mapping the LD 'picture' update
>
>
> Dear John and LDHEN,
> I have been mapping the skills of writing for an
> undergraduate student.  I would be interested in any
> additions to this list.  Look at the amount that students
> need to know!  Why is it that we do not go the way of
> Writing Centres in the UK - and properly teaching writing?
> It would help on the widening participation side, I think, without being
> 'remedial'.
>
> cheers   Jenny
>
> On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 11:56:04 -0000
> John Hilsdon <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > Dear All
> >
> > Further to my previous message about updating our database and mapping
>
> > a picture of what we do/offer in Learning Development type services,
> > Ann Barlow at the Centre for Continuing Education, University of
> > Manchester has very kindly offered to take this task on.  If anyone
> > else wants to bid for the role too, please let me know.  If no one
> > else offers within a week, I reckon we should assume Ann is doing it!
> >
> > In the meantime, do have a look at the Excel file (location in my
> > previous message) and see if you would be interested in updating or
> > submitting information to go on there.  I'm also interested in how we
> > might present this information in others ways .. to a wider forum? ...
>
> > to reach other parts of the HE community? ... what do others think?
> >
> > John
> >
> > John Hilsdon
> > Co-ordinator, Learning Development
> > University of Plymouth
> > Drake Circus
> > Plymouth
> > PL4 8AA
> >
> > 01752 232276
> >
> > [log in to unmask]
> > http://www.plymouth.ac.uk/pages/view.asp?page=8099
> >
> >
> >
>
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