I am sorry if someone has already mentioned this (too much to read - I
need to improve my scanning techniques!) - but there are a number of
studies out there comparing the accuracy of Wikipedia & Encyclopedia
Britannica:
http://news.com.com/Study+Wikipedia+as+accurate+as+Britannica/2100-1038_
3-5997332.html
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v438/n7070/full/438900a.html
http://www.freepint.com/issues/071206.pdf (pp12-16)
Note - this discussion already started in 2005.
Anne
Anne-Kathrin Reck
Academic Learner Support Tutor
Business School
University of Central England/ Birmingham
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-----Original Message-----
From: learning development in higher education network
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jones, Claire
Sent: 08 March 2007 15:50
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Using wikipedia
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Dear all
As the discussion on wikipedia heats up, I thought I'd throw in this
quote from the Times last week:
=20
'Wikipedia lacks accountability, authority, scholarly credentials,
accuracy and scrupulousness'
Rosemary Righter, Times assistant editor and leader writer, quoted by
Richard Dixon, Times Chief Revise Editor, in T2, 2 March 2007 =20 Claire
Jones Course Manager (Undergraduate Marketing and Retail Management)
Oxford Brookes University Business School
________________________________
From: learning development in higher education network
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Foster, Ed
Sent: 08 March 2007 14:30
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Using wikipedia
Probably true but...
=20
From: THES Daily news Tuesday 6 March 2007 Wikipedia hit by identity
crisis as student admits posing as professor=20 Wikipedia is facing one
of its biggest crises after a twentysomething student from Kentucky
posed as a professor of religious studies and made more than 20,000
alterations to controversial topics on the online encyclopedia. Using
the pseudonym "Essjay", the bogus professor had become one of
Wikipedia's most prolific "editors", trusted to adjudicate on factual
disputes and keep the site free from vandalism. He had even featured in
an article in the New Yorker, which took his claims to be an expert in
canon law at face value. Now he has been unmasked as Ryan Jordan, a
24-year-old who had created an entirely false identity, claiming to be a
tenured professor at a private university, but who relied on books such
as Catholicism for Dummies when correcting articles on dogma.=20 The
Independent =20 =20 Ed Foster Study Support Co-ordinator Centre for
Academic Standards & Quality Nottingham Trent University, Burton St,
Nottingham, NG1 4BU
0115 848 8203
=20
-----Original Message-----
From: learning development in higher education network
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Christine Keenan
Sent: 08 March 2007 14:25
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Using wikipedia
=20
I've heard that the error rate in Wikipedia isn't too different to
Encyclopedia Britannica!
Chris
=20
-----Original Message-----
From: learning development in higher education network
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Pat Hill
Sent: 08 March 2007 13:16
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Using wikipedia
Hi David
I'm not sure about the whole University but I know that in the
School of Music, Humanities and Media using Wikipedia seems to be akin
to using your Aunty Ethel's cousin's husband's anecdote as evidence,
judging by the moral indignation it evokes. My view is that it's not a
bad starting point if you want a way into a difficult topic but it can't
be quoted as a reliable source.
Regards
Pat
Pat Hill=20
Academic Skills Tutor=20
School of Music, Humanities and Media=20
Tel 01484 472170=20
Room WG20 West Building=20
University of Huddersfield=20
-----Original Message-----
From: learning development in higher education network
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of David Donnarumma (Staff)
Sent: 08 March 2007 12:51
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Using wikipedia
Hello,=20
I came across the following article
(http://education.guardian.co.uk/elearning/story/0,,2028515,00.html
<http://education.guardian.co.uk/elearning/story/0,,2028515,00.html> )
which involves students writing for wikipedia - similar to the 'evolving
writing wiki'. An interesting way of getting students to develop their
writing, as what they produce is open to discussion by many people. I
think it really helps to develop students' reflective approach to
writing. Another interesting point is the growing acceptance of
wikipedia as a reference.
Has anybody else had an experience in developing
students' writing in this way? How acceptable is wikipedia as a
reference at universities?
Regards,=20
David=20
Brunel University=20
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color=3D#0000ff = size=3D2><SPAN=20 class=3D971554415-08032007>Dear
all</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial
color=3D#0000ff = size=3D2><SPAN=20 class=3D971554415-08032007>As the
discussion on wikipedia heats up, I = thought I'd=20 throw in this quote
from the Times last week:</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV dir=3Dltr
align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff = size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D971554415-08032007></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2><SPAN=20 class=3D971554415-08032007>'Wikipedia lacks
accountability, authority, = scholarly=20 credentials, accuracy and
scrupulousness'</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2><SPAN=20 class=3D971554415-08032007>Rosemary Righter, Times
assistant editor and = leader=20 writer, quoted by Richard Dixon, Times
Chief Revise Editor, in T2, 2 = March=20 2007</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV
dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2><SPAN=20 class=3D971554415-08032007></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2><SPAN=20 class=3D971554415-08032007>Claire
Jones</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial
color=3D#0000ff = size=3D2><SPAN=20 class=3D971554415-08032007>Course
Manager (Undergraduate Marketing and = Retail=20 Management)<BR>Oxford
Brookes University Business = School</SPAN></FONT></DIV><BR> <DIV
class=3DOutlookMessageHeader lang=3Den-us dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft> <HR
tabIndex=3D-1> <FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><B>From:</B> learning
development in higher = education=20 network
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Foster,=20
Ed<BR><B>Sent:</B> 08 March 2007 14:30<BR><B>To:</B>=20
[log in to unmask]<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Using =
wikipedia<BR></FONT><BR></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV class=3DSection1> <P
class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DVerdana color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; =
mso-bidi-font-family: Arial">Probably=20 true
but…<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DVerdana color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; =
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<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet
= MS"=20 size=3D1><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet
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Daily news Tuesday 6 March 2007<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P
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class=3DSpellE><B><FONT=20 face=3D"Trebuchet MS" size=3D1><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet =
MS'">Wikipedia</SPAN></FONT></B></SPAN><B><FONT=20
face=3D"Trebuchet MS" size=3D1><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet =
MS'"> hit by=20 identity crisis as student admits posing as <SPAN =
class=3DGramE>professor<SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: normal"> <BR><SPAN=20
class=3DSpellE>Wikipedia</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20
face=3D"Trebuchet MS" size=3D1><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS'"> is facing one of
= its=20 biggest crises after a <SPAN
class=3DSpellE>twentysomething</SPAN> = student from=20
</SPAN></FONT><st1:State><st1:place><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" =
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face=3D"Trebuchet MS" size=3D1><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS'"> posed as a =
professor of=20 religious studies and made more than 20,000 alterations
to controversial = topics=20 on the online <SPAN
class=3DSpellE>encyclopedia</SPAN>. Using the = pseudonym "<SPAN=20
class=3DSpellE>Essjay</SPAN>", the bogus professor had become one of =
<SPAN=20 class=3DSpellE>Wikipedia's</SPAN> most prolific "editors",
trusted to = adjudicate=20 on factual disputes and keep the site free
from vandalism. He had even = featured=20 in an article in the <I><SPAN
style=3D"FONT-STYLE: italic">New = Yorker</SPAN></I>,=20 which took his
claims to be an expert in canon law at face value. Now he = has=20 been
unmasked as Ryan Jordan, a 24-year-old who had created an entirely =
false=20 identity, claiming to be a tenured professor at a private
university, = but who=20 relied on books such as <I><SPAN
style=3D"FONT-STYLE: = italic">Catholicism for=20 Dummies</SPAN></I>
when correcting articles on dogma.</SPAN></FONT><FONT =
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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-STYLE: italic; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet =
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Trent University, Burton St, Nottingham, NG1 =
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size=3D2><SPAN=20 lang=3DEN-US=20
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EN-US">-----Original=20 Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT:
bold">From:</SPAN></B> = learning=20 development in higher education
network [mailto:[log in to unmask]] = <B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Christine =
Keenan<BR><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> 08 March 2007 =
14:25<BR><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> =
[log in to unmask]<BR><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: Using=20
wikipedia</SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT:
36pt"><FONT face=3D"Times New = Roman"=20 size=3D3><SPAN
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color=3Dblue=20 size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue;
FONT-FAMILY: = Arial">I've heard=20 that the error rate in Wikipedia
isn't too different to Encyclopedia=20
Britannica!</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> -----Original=20
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learning=20 development in higher education network
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] = <B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Pat Hill<BR><B><SPAN
=
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> 08 March 2007 =
13:16<BR><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> =
[log in to unmask]<BR><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: Using=20
wikipedia<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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color=3Dblue=20
size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Hi=20
David</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3Dblue=20
size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">I'm not=20
sure about the whole University but I know that in the School of
= Music,=20
Humanities and Media using Wikipedia seems to be akin to =
using your=20
Aunty Ethel's cousin's husband's anecdote as evidence, judging by the
= moral=20
indignation it evokes. My view is that it's not a bad starting point =
if you=20
want a way into a difficult topic but it can't be quoted as a reliable
=
source.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
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color=3Dblue=20
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Regards</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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color=3Dblue=20
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<B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>David =
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style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Using=20
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<P style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I came across the =
following=20
article (</SPAN></FONT><A=20
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href=3D"http://education.guardian.co.uk/elearning/story/0,,2028515,00.ht
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l"><FONT=20
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</SPAN></FONT></A><FONT=20
face=3DArial><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial">) which involves =
students=20
writing for wikipedia - similar to the 'evolving writing wiki'.
An=20
interesting way of getting students to develop their writing, as =
what they=20
produce is open to discussion by many people. I think it really =
helps to=20
develop students' reflective approach to writing. Another =
interesting point=20
is the growing acceptance of wikipedia as a=20
reference.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Has anybody else had =
an=20
experience in developing students' writing in this way? How =
acceptable is=20
wikipedia as a reference at =
universities?</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN=20
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