I've been following this conversation and have another angle, arising from
the use of the Web for advertising. We find now that we get applications
from all over the world for fairly 'junior' (I hate that term) support posts
and then get worried about their proper rights and expectations against the
reasonableness of offering to pay travel costs to interview! do any of you
have any guidelines on this?
Judith Dimond
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Marshall" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: Verifying Eligibility to work in the UK
> I think there are two issues being confused here.
>
> Of course we wish to advertise our posts to the widest possible audience
to
> make sure we recruit the very best candidates and to encourage diversity
> amongst our workforce.
>
> But on the otherhand when we come to employ somebody we are bound to
> demonstrate that that person is legally entitled to work in the UK.
Provided
> that we apply this to all new employees, if there is any direct or
indirect
> racial discrimiation here it is surely exercised by those who have the
> authority to grant that entitlement not the employer.
>
> Paul
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lie ASJ" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 12:12 PM
> Subject: Re: Verifying Eligibility to work in the UK
>
>
> Dear colleagues,
> I appreciate Mannie's point about RRAA-proofing of our current practices
and
> especially in the light of legislative changes in employment in the past
few
> years. A more fundamental question is, I believe, whether everyone and
> anyone has the right to apply for a job/vacancy which is advertised
publicly
> (be it nationally or in a local paper or on the web). What does it say
about
> our institutions if we do not encourage applications from the widest
> spectrum (in this instance, nationalities) possible?
> Regards,
> Andy Lie
> University of Salford
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Emmanuell Kusemamuriwo [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: 01 July 2003 11:07
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Verifying Eligibility to work in the UK
>
>
> Dear Colleagues,
>
> It might also be a good idea to find out from "the horse's mouth" that is
> the Home Office and/or the CRE, what we are supposed to ask for, from a
> legal and therefore a non unlawful racial discriminatory practice point of
> view.
>
> This will also enable us to RRAA-proof all our current practice.
>
> Though we might feel that what we, from an institutional point of view,
are
> implementing, is fair practice, it might nonetheless end up being
> unwittingly and unlawfully, racially discriminatory. Also our individual
> requirements may have adverse impact on certain racial groups who might
> already be considered, albeit from a stereotypical point of view,likely to
> be "guilty" unless they can prove their innocence. While validation needs
to
> be sought,it still should be conducted candidly but fairly, as required by
> the law of the land and our institutional practice has to be seen to be
> implemented accordingly.
>
> Any comments are most welcome.
>
> Regards
>
> Mannie Kusemamuriwo
> Policy Adviser: Ethnicity & Cultural Diversity
> Equality Challenge Unit
> 3rd Floor, 4 Tavistock Place
> London WC1H 9RA
>
> Tel 020 7520 7063
> Fax 020 7520 7069
> [log in to unmask]
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Akpom-Simon, Nneb [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: 13 June 2003 16:40
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Verifying Eligibility to work in the UK
>
>
> Hello All
>
> In line with the Immigration and Asylum Act, City University verifies the
> right to work in the UK by asking for one of the following from visiting
> lectures:
>
> - A birth certificate issued in the UK, Republic of Ireland, Channel
> Islands or the Isle of Man
> - A passport: issued by an EEA state which describes the holder as a
> national of that state
> - A passport endorsed to show the holder has right of residence in
the
> UK/an EEA state, has indefinite leave to enter the UK or is not
> precluded from employment <<...OLE_Obj...>>
> - A letter from the Immigration & Nationality Directorate
> indicating that the person has permission to take up employment.
> I would like to add a P45, P60 and NI number to this list.
> Can you please let me know the current practice in your institutes.
> Many thanks
>
> Nneb Akpom-Simon
> Equality and Diversity Adviser
> City University
>
> 020 7 040 4069
>
>
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