Dear Lee,
Thank you! I'll look forward to your sketch.
I have heard about plants/outdoors having health benefits of this kind, but
am not sure about the details. Will let you know if I find out more.
Warmest
Alan
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From: "Lee Nicole Scott" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 10:53 AM
Subject: Re: Intangible Presence
Hi Alan
thanks for the mail
I will definitely do a sketch about your poem- great idea! I will scan and
send to you soon.I also receive a tremendous amount of energy when I am in
the bush and I wonder if you can help me on this. I was told once that the
reason we feel so at peace when we are in nature/outdoors/surrounded by
plants is because the plants release 'ions'- some kind of electrical charge
or what have you. Do you know anything about this?
Have a fabulous day
lee
-----Original Message-----
From: Practitioner-Researcher
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(BU)
Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2010 10:25 AM
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Subject: Re: Intangible Presence
Dear Lee,
Thank you very much. I do have a possible painting in mind, but whether I
get around to it remains to be seen. Perhaps you could paint the image in
your mind? I'd love that - real co-creativity!
Yes, I think there may well be a relationship with prescience, which I might
describe in terms of an electrifying sense of close attunement, affinity or
rapport with my neighbourhood. It is especially strong when I experience
'NatureMoments' (see attached leaflets), when painting or writing
poetically, when knowingly dreaming and when in the company of eager
learners (including myself). I suspect it may be related to 'superchannel'
formation (portrayed in the attached painting as a deep kind of
connectivity). Some tell me that they sense an 'aura' around me on those
occasions, and I have indeed experienced some kind of clairvoyance in them,
which I don't know what to make of. But it's not always a 'good' feeling.
One of my most prescient dreams occurred in early September 2001, when I was
on a plane that was hijacked, flown into a vertical edifice and caught
fire - I woke with a sense of my skin alight.
As you may know, and as the poems below themselves relate, I do these days
have a bit of a problem with the language of 'wholeness' and
'connectedness', which I feel does not do justice to the depth, wonder,
fluidity and openness of the experience, and indeed, for me, can colonize
and stifle it. This is why I feel that 'natural inclusionality' reaches
beyond (whilst accommodating and transforming) abstract 'holism' and 'whole
systems theory', and why I can feel very uncomfortable with glib expressions
of the latter (NB I'm not accusing you of this, in fact I feel sure that
your intention is natural inclusional!!!), especially in the context of
'decolonizing praxis'.
My friend, Roy Reynolds, sent me the following comment last night, which I
strongly agree with:
"I am getting quite sure that the notions of unity and wholeness are our own
human impositions on a much more complex and unpredictable flux of nature.
They are our Apollonian order-seeking impulses overriding the Dionysian
wildness of life (and death). Let's hear it for wildness!"
Warmest
Alan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lee Nicole Scott" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2010 7:50 AM
Subject: Re: Intangible Presence
Hi Alan
i really enjoyed Helter- Skelter. I get an incredible visual from it. Have
you painted it?
When i was reading about presence in your article, there were bits that
clicked me through to thinking about prescience. Without sounding wierd, I
felt there was quite a strong link. I think this of this because when one is
well rounded, ok, when I am feeling balanced, whole, harmonious and
connected to the earth; then i have 'presence'(i.e- other people can feel
my energy) . Then in this presence space,i experience this foreknowledge /
prescience and it is a very good place to be. What do you think hey, what do
you experience?
Happy days.
Have a great weekend.
lee
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From: Practitioner-Researcher [[log in to unmask]] On
Behalf Of Alan Rayner (BU) [[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 22 October 2010 08:40 AM
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Subject: Re: Intangible Presence
Dear Geisha and Pip,
Thank you for your responses. It warms me to feel that my expressions of 'A
gape in natural inclusional logic', through which the 'self' can breathe,
can bring some respite in the face of oppression and hope for reformation.
That is indeed the 'hole point', as in the poems written below during and
just after the ALARA World Congress.
Warmest
Alan
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Inventure - Finding the hole in One
To ask where's the gap in one's logic
Is to find the logic in one's gap
An entry place
For breath to take
In where there's warmth
To melt the ice
That binds the self
The one in the many
Or the many in one
That calls itself collective
In solitude
Where there's no way to reach
Out from within
Or outwith in
To where the song
Can sing
In resonant key
Through the hole of reciprocal welcome
Where the leverage point is agape
.............
Helter-Skelter
The Return of the Native
Imagine yourself
Born under cover of darkness
In the shade of an umbrella
Pierced by peepholes
Into an other-worldly radiance
That shines on coralline ocean
Lapping up the shifting shores of landscape
Flowing in rocks and water
Air and fire streams
Breathed in and breathed out
By life itself
As endless variety
In this place you call home
That holds and caresses you
With open arms
But there, at the edge of your stare
Where your home finds its limit horizon
Glinting with cut-glass precision
Is the baseline of prismatic structure
Abstracted out of kilter
A multi-story high rise power block
Splitting apart between seven floors
Each to its own paradox
Confined yet connected
Point to point
By a dichotomous tree
Inverted
With bottom at top
Bifurcating to lower orders
With multiple entry points
Where you can enter freely
From abasement
So long as you close the door behind you!
Once inside this glass-cut space
There's no where for you to go but up
Beckoned by idealism
Of social or economic aspirations
Coloured monotonously
Red or Blue
Me or You
Us or Them
Here or There
Each a cut above the rest
Reached by ladders climbed assiduously
To the point where worlds collide
Far above the ground you left behind
In a room where All presume to be One
Suffocating as a Whole
That claims from aloft
To be more than the parts
Beneath itself
From which it ascended
Only to bang its head
Against the ceiling
So near and yet so far
From what was shut outside
Less than a hare's breath away
Yet, deep in the core of this prism
Reaches the umbrella's shaft
A focal passage
Receptive to all who reach for it
Without resistance
Lifting from base to apex
But not stopping there
Instead emerging into slippery spiral gutter
By way of which the native returns
Whizzing gleefully down slope
To where he and she belong
Together as children playing
In the light of darkness
In the darkness of light
Learning along the way
That gathers before into after
Continually
With no need to get stuck in the prism
That seems to cut a dash in space
But can't.
...................
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From: geisha rebolledo<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
To:
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Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 8:28 PM
Subject: Re: Intangible Presence
Pip,
Thank you very much for your mail. Yes!! KIA KAHA !!! Greetings, Geisha
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Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 08:17:49 +1300
From: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Intangible Presence
To:
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Dear Geisha and others
Sad to hear what is happening in your country, Geisha. I know universities
around the globe are under pressure - there are layoffs and union action in
mine, I know. But not on the scale that you're describing.
I will add your situation to my prayer list!
Kia kaha (Maori expression meaning 'be strong', hang on in there)
Pip
On 22/10/2010 5:08 a.m., geisha rebolledo wrote:
Dear Alan and all,
Thank you so much for comming back to the web. I was already wondering what
happen ?? It is a long time since I heard from you all .... You made me
happy again after this mail.... remember my context is full with situations
that , specially in Caracas, encourege very little deep thinking like this
from Alan... For example my University is on a month strike because the
government reduce our salaryes and owns a debt from 2008, so there is no
salary payments, we are in a real mess...... so to find this paper on the
intangible is wonderful... If i could say something about it Alan I could
start by telling you that thanks to the intangible we manage to survive in
this context at the moment... people in order to avoid the problems,
specially those with socialistic government , also the 30.0 year inflation
, the killings arround, etc., turn to the intangible as the only way... For
example during the past asembly elections there were pray meetings everywere
... and there are small alternative places to go to meditate and to learn
about spiritual subjects in order to fight this reality with intangible
weapons because that is were the fight is located at intangible fields.
Last week I attended a seminar on interdimensionality, this concept I
believe it is related to what you call the intangible. From my point of
view it is the main characteristic of the intangible. It helped me to
give a certain order to other concepts like those involve in your paper. But
another part is how the brain can become an interdimentional station for
communication with the intangible.... Well I stop here, I would like to
continue with this topic, many greetings, geisha
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 07:55:50 +0100
From: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Intangible Presence
To:
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Dear All,
FYPI, I have just drafted the attached short paper, and intend shortly to
post it to www.bestthinking.com<http://>.
Warmest
Alan
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