Please remove me from this email list - best wishes to you all, Jane 

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From: BERA Practitioner-Researcher
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Dr Je
Kan Adler-Collins
Sent: 24 September 2008 03:09
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Subject: Re: Explaining our educational influences in learn...

I read the last flurry of emails with a sadness that yet again the list
has been used for the airing of personal issues that have little or
nothing to do with the current thread of conversations..It seems that
there is a cyclic nature of events in this list where one claims that
certain actions are unfair and that others choose not to engaged and the
now familiar attacks on Jack's work have started with a degree of
insincerity that can only be marvelled at by its consistency, insincere
innuendos that lack any form of compassion despite the window dressing
of the words that suck in the gullible but less than impress those with
hard learned experience of being the focus of or on the receiving end of
such unwelcomed attentions. One only has to check the archives to see
that there is an agenda here that does not belong in the conversations
of this list. Jack is a very patient and compassionate individual and as
joint list owner I share his values and views however Where I am working
now I am using the examples of this list for teaching and its postings
to show how a space can be educational and also how it can be polluted
by the self serving needs of a self serving toxic agenda. Such
individuals always present themselves as miss understood, ignored, the
injured party, yet appear quite happy to dish out their own form of
abuse, self induced outrage and consistently blame every one else for
their troubles and issues. Individual members engaged with what
interests them and energises them or informs them certainly not with
energies that are now openly and constantly aggressive in nature and
content. Educational differences are welcomed and differences between
academics are encourage. Auspicious use of the delete button keeps my
space and energy clean. Silence is perhaps the best way to deal with
such issues however some times things need to addressed openly. I look
forward to informed debates on this list and the area it is moving into
internationally. I would kindly ask that any member with a personal
issue or grudge to deal with their own issues off this list. If a
members is not engaged with perhaps there is a clear message that
individuals are making their own choices as is their right to do so.
Should such communications continue I will be seriously considering
placing any such member on monitoring to check that any postings meet
with the ethos of this list.
Screams of censorship, big brother controlling the space reaching for
legal advice, claiming discrimination, intolerance will be accepted. I
just call it house cleaning and it seems to me that such cleaning is
long, long over due.
 My best wishes to all and may the health  exciting debates on
educational issues continue.

-----Original Message-----
From: BERA Practitioner-Researcher
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Sarah
Fletcher
Sent: 23 September 2008 13:38
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Explaining our educational influences in learn...

Dear Jack,

re.  I'm wondering if we can develop a shared understanding of each
other's unique constellations of values and understandings that help to
constitute who we are and what we are doing? 

Not without explanation - I'd agree with Ram Punia.

re. I'm wondering if we can develop a shared understanding of
expressions of a loving dynamic energy?

Is this erotic spiritual energy or life affirming energy or a
combination of both and what substantive base is there for claiming
these exist let alone are evident from video alone?

re. What I'm wondering is whether, through sharing video-clips of what
we are doing as we express our values and understanding, this will help
us to co-create an educational community that is extending the influence
of the values that carry hope for the future of humanity? 

We need to address issues of bullying on this list first - please see my
email of yesterday

re. I'm wondering if these shared communications will help us to resist
and move beyond the pressures that can constrain the flow of these
values and understandings? 

Ditto above - we need to address and stop exclusion of discussion by
this list's members (I am looking forward to engagement by you, Jack and
others, in critiquing your own ideas - as I invited in my email
yesterday and which you appear to have overlooked so far today).

Regards,

Sarah

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