Hello Marie,
Thank you for clarifying that although my posting was
discusssed my thesis wasn't, although my posting quite
directly related to my thesis. Fortunately, although
some colleagues including you, did not discuss my
attachments and link as Jack openly invited, some very
kindly did.
Leaving aside a need, which is clearly very desirable,
for developing a productive working relationship with
a supervisor - would you like to comment on standards
of judgement you use and encourage others to as
you/they research your/their own practice? I'd value
your response.
Best wishes,
Sarah
--- Marie Huxtable <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Hi
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> I think Pip has described really well what was
> required in terms of time, focussed attention and a
> commitment to developing a productive relationship
> by herself and her supervisor. Whether it is
> possible to produce a thesis of worth without such
> focussed work I do not know. This is beyond the
> scope of a conversational space such as the one on
> Monday to which Sarah alludes. To correct Sarah's
> misunderstanding, we did not
> discuss her draft thesis. To discuss a draft thesis
> is a major undertaking and I am not aware of anyone
> with that time to put at her disposal. The essence
> of the discussion
> around Sarah's posting at last week's Monday
> conversation was communicated lucidly by Margarida
> in her posting. I am very interested in the thread
> that you are now opening Pip and would be interested
> in hearing other people's thinking drawing on other
> fields of enquiry such as Business, Health and so on
> as I am only really familiar with education.
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> Hope life is smiling
> Marie
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> From: Pip/Bruce Ferguson <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Sent: Thursday, 15 February, 2007 8:40:31 PM
> Subject: Re: Slowing down and exploring my/our
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> Hi all, especially Margarida
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> Good point, Margarida. To be fair to Sue
> (my chief examiner) I am inclined to get up on
> soapboxes! So perhaps there was
> too much ‘soapbox’ included in populist language,
> and insufficient ‘simple
> language embracing complexity’ when Sue gave me that
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> the list, I really endorse the need to take calm
> breaths and consider the
> feedback one’s supervisors give one about what
> standards need to be evident in
> a piece of work (even if you want to wring their
> necks at the time you receive
> the feedback!) Also important, I believe, is the
> history of the supervisor/s.
> As I said, Sue has never had a thesis ‘bounced’, but
> it’s probably because she
> is SO insistent that the candidate produces their
> best work – even if that work
> goes way beyond what the candidate felt they could
> do at the time – and won’t
> allow submission for examination until it reaches
> that point. In New Zealand,
> the candidate can submit against
> supervisor advice, but Sue, who’s been on the Higher
> Degrees committee for
> ages, said she’s never seen one achieve success when
> submitted like that.
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> So, all the best to those of you who are
> still working towards your PhDs. The success is
> worth the struggle I believe.
> I felt a bit like my compatriot Sir Edmund Hillary
> who, on reaching the top of
> Mt Everest, said, “We knocked the bastard off!” And
> congratulations to the
> recent PhD achievers, hope you feel great
> satisfaction. We owe thanks to our
> own supervisors and the friends/family who support
> us through the process.
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> Kind regards
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> From:
> BERA Practitioner-Researcher
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> On Behalf Of Margarida Dolan
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> Sent: Friday, 16 February 2007
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Sarah Fletcher
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