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Subject:

Re: No US DP Laws

From:

Tim Trent <[log in to unmask]>

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Tim Trent <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Fri, 25 Feb 2005 10:29:39 -0000

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I am not using it for business purposes at all. I am using the personal
pronoun to mean "little old me" only, and divorced totally form any business
activities.  In fact the data is 100% "business useless" in the way this
system delivers it

-----Original Message-----
From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ian Welton
Sent: 25 February 2005 10:20
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [data-protection] No US DP Laws

Whilst you may claim the domestic purpose exemption, what purpose is the
database held and processed for by the business?

Ian W

> -----Original Message-----
> From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Tim Trent
> Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 9:05 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: No US DP Laws
>
>
> I tend to think that this is paranoia.  Why would it matter if a child
> gave out a phone number?
>
> The current preoccupation with paedophilia misses one vital point.
> Most people who are molested and abused are abused by people known
> well to them. Family, friends of the family and people in positions of
> power over children tend to be the abusers.  These people tend to know
> where the child lives.
>
> The "Random Stranger" and the message "don't go with a stranger miss
> the point by a huge distance.  There will always be the newsworthy
> exception. But these are exceptions, and are usually spur of the
> moment incidents. That poor child some years ago from (I think)
> Wokingham, Mark Tyldesly
> (spoiling?) at a fairground, for example.  The high profile girl who
> was abducted by a man in a van while on a picnic with her family.
> That has always been with us, and will always be with us.
>
> But, if we are to go down this tack, made popular by the mass media
> because grief and righteous indignation sells papers and advertising,
> we need to be clear on the facts.
>
> One relevant one here is "Is the data capable of identifying a living
> individual?"
>
> I seem to be ranting.  I think it is worth ranting over this because
> we need a calm perspective over such things.
>
> I have a database I have bought legitimately that includes the UK
> electoral roll.  I have found a long lost colleague by vaguely
> recalling his wife's name and knowing his forename.
> Extracting that data and running queries on it gave me high
> probability matches.  Amazingly they are still married after 30 years,
> ands I have found him.  Is that not more intrusive?
>
> Oh yes.  I claim the "Domestic Purposes Exemption"
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Brenda Scourfield
> Sent: 24 February 2005 14:48
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [data-protection] No US DP Laws
>
> I was mailed this today - it doesn't work for UK numbers.
>
> Google has implemented a new feature wherein you can type someone's
> telephone number into the search bar and hit enter and then you will
> be given a map to their house.  Everyone should be aware of this!
>
> Note that you can have your phone number removed or blocked.
> Before forwarding this, I tested it by typing my telephone number in
> Google.com. My phone number came up, and when I clicked on the
> MapQuest link, it actually mapped out where I live.  Quite scary.
> Please look up your own number.  Read below for details.
>
> Think about it--if a child, ANYONE gives out his/her phone number,
> someone can actually now look it up to find out where he/she lives.
> The safety issues are obvious, and alarming.
> In order to test whether your phone number is mapped, go to:
> <http://www.google.com/> Type your phone number in the search bar
> (i.e. 555-555-1212) and hit enter.  If you want to BLOCK Google from
> divulging your private information, simply click on the telephone icon
> next to your phone number.  I removed my name, but it takes 48-hours.
> If you are unlisted in the phone book, you might not be in there, but
> it is a good idea just to check.  If your number does come up if you
> hit map,it will show you a direct map to your house...
>
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