I am not using it for business purposes at all. I am using the personal pronoun to mean "little old me" only, and divorced totally form any business activities. In fact the data is 100% "business useless" in the way this system delivers it -----Original Message----- From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ian Welton Sent: 25 February 2005 10:20 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [data-protection] No US DP Laws Whilst you may claim the domestic purpose exemption, what purpose is the database held and processed for by the business? Ian W > -----Original Message----- > From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Tim Trent > Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 9:05 PM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: No US DP Laws > > > I tend to think that this is paranoia. Why would it matter if a child > gave out a phone number? > > The current preoccupation with paedophilia misses one vital point. > Most people who are molested and abused are abused by people known > well to them. Family, friends of the family and people in positions of > power over children tend to be the abusers. These people tend to know > where the child lives. > > The "Random Stranger" and the message "don't go with a stranger miss > the point by a huge distance. There will always be the newsworthy > exception. But these are exceptions, and are usually spur of the > moment incidents. That poor child some years ago from (I think) > Wokingham, Mark Tyldesly > (spoiling?) at a fairground, for example. The high profile girl who > was abducted by a man in a van while on a picnic with her family. > That has always been with us, and will always be with us. > > But, if we are to go down this tack, made popular by the mass media > because grief and righteous indignation sells papers and advertising, > we need to be clear on the facts. > > One relevant one here is "Is the data capable of identifying a living > individual?" > > I seem to be ranting. I think it is worth ranting over this because > we need a calm perspective over such things. > > I have a database I have bought legitimately that includes the UK > electoral roll. I have found a long lost colleague by vaguely > recalling his wife's name and knowing his forename. > Extracting that data and running queries on it gave me high > probability matches. Amazingly they are still married after 30 years, > ands I have found him. Is that not more intrusive? > > Oh yes. I claim the "Domestic Purposes Exemption" > > -----Original Message----- > From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Brenda Scourfield > Sent: 24 February 2005 14:48 > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: [data-protection] No US DP Laws > > I was mailed this today - it doesn't work for UK numbers. > > Google has implemented a new feature wherein you can type someone's > telephone number into the search bar and hit enter and then you will > be given a map to their house. Everyone should be aware of this! > > Note that you can have your phone number removed or blocked. > Before forwarding this, I tested it by typing my telephone number in > Google.com. My phone number came up, and when I clicked on the > MapQuest link, it actually mapped out where I live. Quite scary. > Please look up your own number. Read below for details. > > Think about it--if a child, ANYONE gives out his/her phone number, > someone can actually now look it up to find out where he/she lives. > The safety issues are obvious, and alarming. > In order to test whether your phone number is mapped, go to: > <http://www.google.com/> Type your phone number in the search bar > (i.e. 555-555-1212) and hit enter. If you want to BLOCK Google from > divulging your private information, simply click on the telephone icon > next to your phone number. I removed my name, but it takes 48-hours. > If you are unlisted in the phone book, you might not be in there, but > it is a good idea just to check. If your number does come up if you > hit map,it will show you a direct map to your house... > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > All archives of messages are stored permanently and are > available to the world wide web community at large at > http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/data-protection.html > If you wish to leave this list please send the command > leave data-protection to [log in to unmask] > All user commands can be found at : - > http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/help/commandref.htm > Any queries about sending or receiving message please send to the list > owner > [log in to unmask] > (all commands go to [log in to unmask] not the list please) > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > All archives of messages are stored permanently and are > available to the world wide web community at large at > http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/data-protection.html > If you wish to leave this list please send the command > leave data-protection to [log in to unmask] > All user commands can be found at : - > http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/help/commandref.htm > Any queries about sending or receiving message please send to the list > owner > [log in to unmask] > (all commands go to [log in to unmask] not the list please) > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ All archives of messages are stored permanently and are available to the world wide web community at large at http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/data-protection.html If you wish to leave this list please send the command leave data-protection to [log in to unmask] All user commands can be found at : - http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/help/commandref.htm Any queries about sending or receiving message please send to the list owner [log in to unmask] (all commands go to [log in to unmask] not the list please) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ All archives of messages are stored permanently and are available to the world wide web community at large at http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/data-protection.html If you wish to leave this list please send the command leave data-protection to [log in to unmask] All user commands can be found at : - http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/help/commandref.htm Any queries about sending or receiving message please send to the list owner [log in to unmask] (all commands go to [log in to unmask] not the list please) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^