Indeed you can adapt things, but only within the parameters of maths
itself. However, I'm not quite sure what you mean by the language of
maths. Do you mean the actual vocabulary such as addition, subtraction,
division, multiplication etc or something broader? Most of the language
in the numeracy textbooks I have seen is to help people who struggle
with maths by placing the maths itself into a real context. People who
already have a high level of maths don't generally have a problem
relating maths to the real life situations such as money, area, time
etc. It is the situational dependency of the examples used as questions
which catch some students out, ( i.e. the products in a supermarket or
the explanations of trip being organised somewhere ) and that isn't
specifically numeracy language.
I agree with your final point about teaching at entry level. I'm just
really highlighting there may well be many students who fall outside
these parameters.
Thanks
Liam
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The road is only as narrow as lecturers make it. Surely we do not just
teach
to an exam? Isn't it up to the lecturers to make courses relevant to
their
learners? Even learners with higher Maths skills need to be able to
articulate what they know - and if they don't understand the language of
a
Maths problem they may well calculate incorrectly. Mathematical language
is
part of the numeracy core curriculum and is a valid topic for teaching.
I
personally think it should be given due value; it is an important life
skill
and valued highly by employers.
Wrt to ESOL lecturers having the skills to teach Numeracy/Maths they
should
have no problem at Entry level at least; requirements for ESOL lecturers
include a minimum of Level 2 Numeracy to start on a teaching qual; and
the
ESOL subject specialisms include the importance of numeracy and the
teaching
of it. Surely if we as ESOL lecturers cannot embed Numeracy into ESOL
then
how do we expect vocational lecturers to embed language, literacy or
numeracy into their courses?
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Likewise, I agree there is a risk of heading down a narrow road. Also,
with reference to points made about materials, I taught numeracy/maths
classes to young learner for two or three years and I have to echo the
comments made about the wordiness of some of the numeracy materials.
This is obviously because they are designed for learners who have
English as a first language but who need the maths ideas embedding and
contextualising to help aid understanding. Quite a few of the learners
I taught preferred the GCSE materials because they were more symbol
based and relied less on their understanding of English, which throws
out yet another issue which is our learners may already have very good
maths skills and not require numeracy, but still need a lot of help with
their English.
Liam
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Dear all
I can see the pragmatic arguments around numeracy - anything is better
than nothing, although clearly this takes back into a very limited kind
of functionalism (and of course assumes that ESOL teachers have the
skills to teach numeracy). But I don't see any mention of literacy as
such. Is that what contributors mean by the Functional Skills
alternative? Are there colleges already teaching ESOL through that
route? Am I right to assume that the non-active benefit rules wouldn't
apply to these courses, and that students on NASS support or Section 4
would be eligible?
Rob
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Following up the posting from James yesterday 'ESOL cuts on BBC
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The AOC press release and key survey findings docs attached.
Language course cuts pose further threat to Cameron's 'Big Society'
Disadvantaged women would be hardest hit.
Proposed changes to the funding of English courses for speakers of
other
languages (ESOL) could hit Government plans for citizenship,
volunteering
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of the AoC survey, which was conducted at the end of January -attached
Cathy
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Action for ESOL
_http://www.natecla.org.uk/news_details.asp?NewsID=560_
(http://www.natecla.org.uk/news_details.asp?NewsID=560)
_http://www.gopetition.com/petition/41552.html_
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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 14:13:46 +0000
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Subject: Future of ESOL
The cuts to ESOL funding and the changes to eligibility for funding,
combined with the fact that it appears that ESOL Skills for Life quals
(along with literacy quals apart from Functional Skills) may not be on
the LAD after next year, result in a picture of uncertainty for the
future. Are there any curriculum managers for ESOL and ESOL practioners
or consultants who have inspired ideas about how to rebrand ESOL to
enable the maximum number of learners to continue with ESOL classes? It
is good to see so much activity around the campaign and that the
press/media are reporting the issues, but it may also be politic to
consider alternatives...
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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 15:09:18 -0000
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Subject: Re: Future of ESOL
Wrt Gill's call for alternatives, I believe that Entry level Numeracy
can
provide the answer for ESOL learners at Entry level. If classes are
called
Skills for Life classes with both ESOL & Numeracy qual targets then ESOL
will embed quite neatly into a numeracy SOW eg: numbers, telling the
time,
reading and extracting info from timetables, comparatives. All of the
preceding are typical ESOL topics and also are part of E1 & E2 of the
numeracy curriculum. This would halve the cost of the fees - and give
increased funding because Entry Numeracy still attracts 1.4 uplift
funding.
Whilst in the classroom this is not too much of a challenge it can need
careful setting up for college MIS, learning agreements, admin etc. some
colleges will find this hard to cope with but with careful planning &
getting everyone on board it can work - I know because I have done it!
It's also interesting because if the funding guidance is read carefully
-
there is a section about the importance of numeracy and that all
literacy &
ESOL learners should be screened and offered numeracy if appropriate.
In
addition, embedding is of course being pushed for functional skills in
vocational courses - so it's in line with current initiatives. Of
course, 2
yrs down the line and this avenue might be closed down, too.
Clearly, the learners would have to be on board, too.
For level 1 it might be useful to think about Foundation Learning. This
is
of course totally free. Can't think of L2 alternatives at this moment.
Luci Woodland
Starfish ESOL
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Subject: Future of ESOL
The cuts to ESOL funding and the changes to eligibility for funding,
combined with the fact that it appears that ESOL Skills for Life quals
(along with literacy quals apart from Functional Skills) may not be on
the
LAD after next year, result in a picture of uncertainty for the future.
Are
there any curriculum managers for ESOL and ESOL practioners or
consultants
who have inspired ideas about how to rebrand ESOL to enable the maximum
number of learners to continue with ESOL classes? It is good to see so
much
activity around the campaign and that the press/media are reporting the
issues, but it may also be politic to consider alternatives...
Gill Evans
Performance Manager ESOL
020 7573 5376
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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 15:40:44 +0000
From: Isabel Arnold <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Future of ESOL
This is interesting!
Only today I happened to be working from a numeracy practice paper at
Entry 1 with an ESOL learner (in a voluntary beginners' class); maths is
something she can do but she needs to develop the language invloved - as
you say in your email - telling the time, comparatives, money,
prepositions of place, question forms etc and all the vocabulary that
'narrative problems' throw up. It provided an excellent context for her
to read and speak!
Embedded ESOL!
Isabel Arnold
> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 15:09:18 +0000
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Future of ESOL
> To: [log in to unmask]
>
> Wrt Gill's call for alternatives, I believe that Entry level Numeracy
can
> provide the answer for ESOL learners at Entry level. If classes are
called
> Skills for Life classes with both ESOL & Numeracy qual targets then
ESOL
> will embed quite neatly into a numeracy SOW eg: numbers, telling the
time,
> reading and extracting info from timetables, comparatives. All of the
> preceding are typical ESOL topics and also are part of E1 & E2 of the
> numeracy curriculum. This would halve the cost of the fees - and give
> increased funding because Entry Numeracy still attracts 1.4 uplift
funding.
>
> Whilst in the classroom this is not too much of a challenge it can
need
> careful setting up for college MIS, learning agreements, admin etc.
some
> colleges will find this hard to cope with but with careful planning &
> getting everyone on board it can work - I know because I have done it!
>
> It's also interesting because if the funding guidance is read
carefully -
> there is a section about the importance of numeracy and that all
literacy &
> ESOL learners should be screened and offered numeracy if appropriate.
In
> addition, embedding is of course being pushed for functional skills in
> vocational courses - so it's in line with current initiatives. Of
course, 2
> yrs down the line and this avenue might be closed down, too.
>
> Clearly, the learners would have to be on board, too.
>
> For level 1 it might be useful to think about Foundation Learning.
This is
> of course totally free. Can't think of L2 alternatives at this moment.
>
> Luci Woodland
> Starfish ESOL
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ESOL-Research discussion forum and message board
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Gill Evans
> Sent: 17 February 2011 14:14
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Future of ESOL
>
> The cuts to ESOL funding and the changes to eligibility for funding,
> combined with the fact that it appears that ESOL Skills for Life quals
> (along with literacy quals apart from Functional Skills) may not be on
the
> LAD after next year, result in a picture of uncertainty for the
future. Are
> there any curriculum managers for ESOL and ESOL practioners or
consultants
> who have inspired ideas about how to rebrand ESOL to enable the
maximum
> number of learners to continue with ESOL classes? It is good to see so
much
> activity around the campaign and that the press/media are reporting
the
> issues, but it may also be politic to consider alternatives...
>
> Gill Evans
> Performance Manager ESOL
> 020 7573 5376
>
>
> Opening for September 2011 - Brand new centre, Hortensia Road, SW10.
> http://www.kcc.ac.uk/hortensia/
>
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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 15:47:37 -0000
From: "Chanda, Noyona" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Future of ESOL
For those interested in the ESOL numeracy suggestion made earlier, we
at LLU+ have done a lot of work in this area and agree that you can
develop English language skills building on the numeracy that learners
already have - whether informal or formal. I wrote an article on this
in a NATECLA Newsletter some years ago and had 26 ESOL learners show
up on the first day of a "numeracy for ESOL learners" class at a
London FE college!
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To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Future of ESOL
This is interesting!
Only today I happened to be working from a numeracy practice paper at
Entry 1 with an ESOL learner (in a voluntary beginners' class); maths
is something she can do but she needs to develop the language invloved
- as you say in your email - telling the time, comparatives, money,
prepositions of place, question forms etc and all the vocabulary that
'narrative problems' throw up. It provided an excellent context for
her to read and speak!
Embedded ESOL!
Isabel Arnold
> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 15:09:18 +0000
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Future of ESOL
> To: [log in to unmask]
>
> Wrt Gill's call for alternatives, I believe that Entry level
Numeracy can
> provide the answer for ESOL learners at Entry level. If classes are
called
> Skills for Life classes with both ESOL & Numeracy qual targets then
ESOL
> will embed quite neatly into a numeracy SOW eg: numbers, telling the
time,
> reading and extracting info from timetables, comparatives. All of
the
> preceding are typical ESOL topics and also are part of E1 & E2 of
the
> numeracy curriculum. This would halve the cost of the fees - and
give
> increased funding because Entry Numeracy still attracts 1.4 uplift
funding.
>
> Whilst in the classroom this is not too much of a challenge it can
need
> careful setting up for college MIS, learning agreements, admin etc.
some
> colleges will find this hard to cope with but with careful planning
&
> getting everyone on board it can work - I know because I have done
it!
>
> It's also interesting because if the funding guidance is read
carefully -
> there is a section about the importance of numeracy and that all
literacy &
> ESOL learners should be screened and offered numeracy if
appropriate. In
> addition, embedding is of course being pushed for functional skills
in
> vocational courses - so it's in line with current initiatives. Of
course, 2
> yrs down the line and this avenue might be closed down, too.
>
> Clearly, the learners would have to be on board, too.
>
> For level 1 it might be useful to think about Foundation Learning.
This is
> of course totally free. Can't think of L2 alternatives at this
moment.
>
> Luci Woodland
> Starfish ESOL
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ESOL-Research discussion forum and message board
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Gill Evans
> Sent: 17 February 2011 14:14
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Future of ESOL
>
> The cuts to ESOL funding and the changes to eligibility for funding,
> combined with the fact that it appears that ESOL Skills for Life
quals
> (along with literacy quals apart from Functional Skills) may not be
on the
> LAD after next year, result in a picture of uncertainty for the
future. Are
> there any curriculum managers for ESOL and ESOL practioners or
consultants
> who have inspired ideas about how to rebrand ESOL to enable the
maximum
> number of learners to continue with ESOL classes? It is good to see
so much
> activity around the campaign and that the press/media are reporting
the
> issues, but it may also be politic to consider alternatives...
>
> Gill Evans
> Performance Manager ESOL
> 020 7573 5376
>
>
> Opening for September 2011 - Brand new centre, Hortensia Road, SW10.
> http://www.kcc.ac.uk/hortensia/
>
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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 16:05:54 +0000
From: Gill Evans <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Future of ESOL
Very interesting response - I am already researching functional skills
maths (NB maths not numeracy) assessment materials. The question is what
would the qualification targets be for such a course (Luci refers to
'ESOL and Numeracy qual targets). Numeracy (now called Maths) would be
Entry level Functional Skills (?) and ESOL qual?
Gill Evans
Performance Manager ESOL
020 7573 5376
>>> "starfish information" <[log in to unmask]> 2/17/2011 3:09 pm
>>>
Wrt Gill's call for alternatives, I believe that Entry level Numeracy
can
provide the answer for ESOL learners at Entry level. If classes are
called
Skills for Life classes with both ESOL & Numeracy qual targets then ESOL
will embed quite neatly into a numeracy SOW eg: numbers, telling the
time,
reading and extracting info from timetables, comparatives. All of the
preceding are typical ESOL topics and also are part of E1 & E2 of the
numeracy curriculum. This would halve the cost of the fees - and give
increased funding because Entry Numeracy still attracts 1.4 uplift
funding.
Whilst in the classroom this is not too much of a challenge it can need
careful setting up for college MIS, learning agreements, admin etc. some
colleges will find this hard to cope with but with careful planning &
getting everyone on board it can work - I know because I have done it!
It's also interesting because if the funding guidance is read carefully
-
there is a section about the importance of numeracy and that all
literacy &
ESOL learners should be screened and offered numeracy if appropriate.
In
addition, embedding is of course being pushed for functional skills in
vocational courses - so it's in line with current initiatives. Of
course, 2
yrs down the line and this avenue might be closed down, too.
Clearly, the learners would have to be on board, too.
For level 1 it might be useful to think about Foundation Learning. This
is
of course totally free. Can't think of L2 alternatives at this moment.
Luci Woodland
Starfish ESOL
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[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Gill Evans
Sent: 17 February 2011 14:14
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Future of ESOL
The cuts to ESOL funding and the changes to eligibility for funding,
combined with the fact that it appears that ESOL Skills for Life quals
(along with literacy quals apart from Functional Skills) may not be on
the
LAD after next year, result in a picture of uncertainty for the future.
Are
there any curriculum managers for ESOL and ESOL practioners or
consultants
who have inspired ideas about how to rebrand ESOL to enable the maximum
number of learners to continue with ESOL classes? It is good to see so
much
activity around the campaign and that the press/media are reporting the
issues, but it may also be politic to consider alternatives...
Gill Evans
Performance Manager ESOL
020 7573 5376
Opening for September 2011 - Brand new centre, Hortensia Road, SW10.
http://www.kcc.ac.uk/hortensia/
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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 16:19:29 -0000
From: Naomi Nikhata <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Future of ESOL
I am currently delivering a numeracy for ESOL learners programme at
Entry 3 at Doncaster College. It is proving popular and the learners are
finding that it helps them in their mainstream ESOL classes also. Next
year we are putting on several more such classes as an alternative to
the main ESOL classes which many learners will not be able to afford.
How are you able to attach an ESOL qual though without incurring high
fees?
________________________________
From: ESOL-Research discussion forum and message board
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Chanda, Noyona
Sent: 17 February 2011 15:48
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Future of ESOL
For those interested in the ESOL numeracy suggestion made earlier, we at
LLU+ have done a lot of work in this area and agree that you can develop
English language skills building on the numeracy that learners already
have - whether informal or formal. I wrote an article on this in a
NATECLA Newsletter some years ago and had 26 ESOL learners show up on
the first day of a "numeracy for ESOL learners" class at a London FE
college!
----------------------------------------------
Noyona Chanda FRSA
Director
LLU+ London South Bank University
Tel: +44 (0)20 7815 6282
Fax. +44 (0)20 7815 6280
Postal Address:
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[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Isabel Arnold
Sent: 17 February 2011 15:41
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Future of ESOL
This is interesting!
Only today I happened to be working from a numeracy practice paper at
Entry 1 with an ESOL learner (in a voluntary beginners' class); maths is
something she can do but she needs to develop the language invloved - as
you say in your email - telling the time, comparatives, money,
prepositions of place, question forms etc and all the vocabulary that
'narrative problems' throw up. It provided an excellent context for her
to read and speak!
Embedded ESOL!
Isabel Arnold
> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 15:09:18 +0000
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Future of ESOL
> To: [log in to unmask]
>
> Wrt Gill's call for alternatives, I believe that Entry level Numeracy
can
> provide the answer for ESOL learners at Entry level. If classes are
called
> Skills for Life classes with both ESOL & Numeracy qual targets then
ESOL
> will embed quite neatly into a numeracy SOW eg: numbers, telling the
time,
> reading and extracting info from timetables, comparatives. All of the
> preceding are typical ESOL topics and also are part of E1 & E2 of the
> numeracy curriculum. This would halve the cost of the fees - and give
> increased funding because Entry Numeracy still attracts 1.4 uplift
funding.
>
> Whilst in the classroom this is not too much of a challenge it can
need
> careful setting up for college MIS, learning agreements, admin etc.
some
> colleges will find this hard to cope with but with careful planning &
> getting everyone on board it can work - I know because I have done it!
>
> It's also interesting because if the funding guidance is read
carefully -
> there is a section about the importance of numeracy and that all
literacy &
> ESOL learners should be screened and offered numeracy if appropriate.
In
> addition, embedding is of course being pushed for functional skills in
> vocational courses - so it's in line with current initiatives. Of
course, 2
> yrs down the line and this avenue might be closed down, too.
>
> Clearly, the learners would have to be on board, too.
>
> For level 1 it might be useful to think about Foundation Learning.
This is
> of course totally free. Can't think of L2 alternatives at this moment.
>
> Luci Woodland
> Starfish ESOL
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ESOL-Research discussion forum and message board
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Gill Evans
> Sent: 17 February 2011 14:14
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Future of ESOL
>
> The cuts to ESOL funding and the changes to eligibility for funding,
> combined with the fact that it appears that ESOL Skills for Life quals
> (along with literacy quals apart from Functional Skills) may not be on
the
> LAD after next year, result in a picture of uncertainty for the
future. Are
> there any curriculum managers for ESOL and ESOL practioners or
consultants
> who have inspired ideas about how to rebrand ESOL to enable the
maximum
> number of learners to continue with ESOL classes? It is good to see so
much
> activity around the campaign and that the press/media are reporting
the
> issues, but it may also be politic to consider alternatives...
>
> Gill Evans
> Performance Manager ESOL
> 020 7573 5376
>
>
> Opening for September 2011 - Brand new centre, Hortensia Road, SW10.
> http://www.kcc.ac.uk/hortensia/
>
> Follow us on Twitter: www.twitter.com/KC_College Join us on Facebook:
> www.facebook.com/pages/Kensington-and-Chelsea-College/125789694115973
>
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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 16:45:35 -0000
From: "Hall, Lorraine" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Future of ESOL
Would there need to be an ESOL qual attached unless they need it for
ILR?
From: ESOL-Research discussion forum and message board
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Naomi Nikhata
Sent: 17 February 2011 16:19
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Future of ESOL
I am currently delivering a numeracy for ESOL learners programme at
Entry 3 at Doncaster College. It is proving popular and the learners are
finding that it helps them in their mainstream ESOL classes also. Next
year we are putting on several more such classes as an alternative to
the main ESOL classes which many learners will not be able to afford.
How are you able to attach an ESOL qual though without incurring high
fees?
________________________________
From: ESOL-Research discussion forum and message board
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Chanda, Noyona
Sent: 17 February 2011 15:48
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Future of ESOL
For those interested in the ESOL numeracy suggestion made earlier, we at
LLU+ have done a lot of work in this area and agree that you can develop
English language skills building on the numeracy that learners already
have - whether informal or formal. I wrote an article on this in a
NATECLA Newsletter some years ago and had 26 ESOL learners show up on
the first day of a "numeracy for ESOL learners" class at a London FE
college!
----------------------------------------------
Noyona Chanda FRSA
Director
LLU+ London South Bank University
Tel: +44 (0)20 7815 6282
Fax. +44 (0)20 7815 6280
Postal Address:
103 Borough Road, London SE1 0AA
Centre Address:
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[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Isabel Arnold
Sent: 17 February 2011 15:41
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Future of ESOL
This is interesting!
Only today I happened to be working from a numeracy practice paper at
Entry 1 with an ESOL learner (in a voluntary beginners' class); maths is
something she can do but she needs to develop the language invloved - as
you say in your email - telling the time, comparatives, money,
prepositions of place, question forms etc and all the vocabulary that
'narrative problems' throw up. It provided an excellent context for her
to read and speak!
Embedded ESOL!
Isabel Arnold
> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 15:09:18 +0000
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Future of ESOL
> To: [log in to unmask]
>
> Wrt Gill's call for alternatives, I believe that Entry level Numeracy
can
> provide the answer for ESOL learners at Entry level. If classes are
called
> Skills for Life classes with both ESOL & Numeracy qual targets then
ESOL
> will embed quite neatly into a numeracy SOW eg: numbers, telling the
time,
> reading and extracting info from timetables, comparatives. All of the
> preceding are typical ESOL topics and also are part of E1 & E2 of the
> numeracy curriculum. This would halve the cost of the fees - and give
> increased funding because Entry Numeracy still attracts 1.4 uplift
funding.
>
> Whilst in the classroom this is not too much of a challenge it can
need
> careful setting up for college MIS, learning agreements, admin etc.
some
> colleges will find this hard to cope with but with careful planning &
> getting everyone on board it can work - I know because I have done it!
>
> It's also interesting because if the funding guidance is read
carefully -
> there is a section about the importance of numeracy and that all
literacy &
> ESOL learners should be screened and offered numeracy if appropriate.
In
> addition, embedding is of course being pushed for functional skills in
> vocational courses - so it's in line with current initiatives. Of
course, 2
> yrs down the line and this avenue might be closed down, too.
>
> Clearly, the learners would have to be on board, too.
>
> For level 1 it might be useful to think about Foundation Learning.
This is
> of course totally free. Can't think of L2 alternatives at this moment.
>
> Luci Woodland
> Starfish ESOL
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ESOL-Research discussion forum and message board
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Gill Evans
> Sent: 17 February 2011 14:14
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Future of ESOL
>
> The cuts to ESOL funding and the changes to eligibility for funding,
> combined with the fact that it appears that ESOL Skills for Life quals
> (along with literacy quals apart from Functional Skills) may not be on
the
> LAD after next year, result in a picture of uncertainty for the
future. Are
> there any curriculum managers for ESOL and ESOL practioners or
consultants
> who have inspired ideas about how to rebrand ESOL to enable the
maximum
> number of learners to continue with ESOL classes? It is good to see so
much
> activity around the campaign and that the press/media are reporting
the
> issues, but it may also be politic to consider alternatives...
>
> Gill Evans
> Performance Manager ESOL
> 020 7573 5376
>
>
> Opening for September 2011 - Brand new centre, Hortensia Road, SW10.
> http://www.kcc.ac.uk/hortensia/
>
> Follow us on Twitter: www.twitter.com/KC_College Join us on Facebook:
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Subject: FW: Save EMA campaign continues
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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 16:56:58 -0000
From: Naomi Nikhata <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Future of ESOL
We are running it on a numeracy only qual, but I thought some earlier
posts had suggested an ESOL qual also being attached.
________________________________
From: Hall, Lorraine [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 17 February 2011 16:46
To: Naomi Nikhata; [log in to unmask]
Subject: RE: Future of ESOL
Would there need to be an ESOL qual attached unless they need it for
ILR?
From: ESOL-Research discussion forum and message board
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Naomi Nikhata
Sent: 17 February 2011 16:19
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Future of ESOL
I am currently delivering a numeracy for ESOL learners programme at
Entry 3 at Doncaster College. It is proving popular and the learners are
finding that it helps them in their mainstream ESOL classes also. Next
year we are putting on several more such classes as an alternative to
the main ESOL classes which many learners will not be able to afford.
How are you able to attach an ESOL qual though without incurring high
fees?
________________________________
From: ESOL-Research discussion forum and message board
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Chanda, Noyona
Sent: 17 February 2011 15:48
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Future of ESOL
For those interested in the ESOL numeracy suggestion made earlier, we at
LLU+ have done a lot of work in this area and agree that you can develop
English language skills building on the numeracy that learners already
have - whether informal or formal. I wrote an article on this in a
NATECLA Newsletter some years ago and had 26 ESOL learners show up on
the first day of a "numeracy for ESOL learners" class at a London FE
college!
----------------------------------------------
Noyona Chanda FRSA
Director
LLU+ London South Bank University
Tel: +44 (0)20 7815 6282
Fax. +44 (0)20 7815 6280
Postal Address:
103 Borough Road, London SE1 0AA
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Sent: 17 February 2011 15:41
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Subject: Re: Future of ESOL
This is interesting!
Only today I happened to be working from a numeracy practice paper at
Entry 1 with an ESOL learner (in a voluntary beginners' class); maths is
something she can do but she needs to develop the language invloved - as
you say in your email - telling the time, comparatives, money,
prepositions of place, question forms etc and all the vocabulary that
'narrative problems' throw up. It provided an excellent context for her
to read and speak!
Embedded ESOL!
Isabel Arnold
> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 15:09:18 +0000
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Future of ESOL
> To: [log in to unmask]
>
> Wrt Gill's call for alternatives, I believe that Entry level Numeracy
can
> provide the answer for ESOL learners at Entry level. If classes are
called
> Skills for Life classes with both ESOL & Numeracy qual targets then
ESOL
> will embed quite neatly into a numeracy SOW eg: numbers, telling the
time,
> reading and extracting info from timetables, comparatives. All of the
> preceding are typical ESOL topics and also are part of E1 & E2 of the
> numeracy curriculum. This would halve the cost of the fees - and give
> increased funding because Entry Numeracy still attracts 1.4 uplift
funding.
>
> Whilst in the classroom this is not too much of a challenge it can
need
> careful setting up for college MIS, learning agreements, admin etc.
some
> colleges will find this hard to cope with but with careful planning &
> getting everyone on board it can work - I know because I have done it!
>
> It's also interesting because if the funding guidance is read
carefully -
> there is a section about the importance of numeracy and that all
literacy &
> ESOL learners should be screened and offered numeracy if appropriate.
In
> addition, embedding is of course being pushed for functional skills in
> vocational courses - so it's in line with current initiatives. Of
course, 2
> yrs down the line and this avenue might be closed down, too.
>
> Clearly, the learners would have to be on board, too.
>
> For level 1 it might be useful to think about Foundation Learning.
This is
> of course totally free. Can't think of L2 alternatives at this moment.
>
> Luci Woodland
> Starfish ESOL
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ESOL-Research discussion forum and message board
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Gill Evans
> Sent: 17 February 2011 14:14
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Future of ESOL
>
> The cuts to ESOL funding and the changes to eligibility for funding,
> combined with the fact that it appears that ESOL Skills for Life quals
> (along with literacy quals apart from Functional Skills) may not be on
the
> LAD after next year, result in a picture of uncertainty for the
future. Are
> there any curriculum managers for ESOL and ESOL practioners or
consultants
> who have inspired ideas about how to rebrand ESOL to enable the
maximum
> number of learners to continue with ESOL classes? It is good to see so
much
> activity around the campaign and that the press/media are reporting
the
> issues, but it may also be politic to consider alternatives...
>
> Gill Evans
> Performance Manager ESOL
> 020 7573 5376
>
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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 18:26:46 -0000
From: starfish information <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Future of ESOL
I agree; an ESOL qual may not be needed except for MIS/ILR purposes. Of
course the learners might want an ESOL qual so a way of offering it
would
need to be sorted out.
In the past I have done it in 2 ways.
. A 'basket' of quals for each course - selecting the most
appropriate for each learner (heavy on admin) and then splitting the
hours
between the 2 quals on the ILR/Learning agreement. Eg a 90 hour course
would
record 45 hrs ESOL and 45 Num - then only have of the tuition fee needs
to
be passed on to the learner. I have found this is hard for both
lecturers &
admin to get their heads around the paperwork as we're talking about a
number of different permutations.
. 2 separate courses delivered back to back. One advertised as
ESOL
the other Numeracy for ESOL learners. This would mean again a fee for
the
ESOL class but not for the Num class. How the SOW for the 2 classes are
designed would be up to the lecturers; does it really matter if topics
cross
over? This way is easier for admin purposes.
I guess the choice about how it's administrated is really a decision for
each provider according to local contexts and provider support
processes.
From: ESOL-Research discussion forum and message board
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Hall, Lorraine
Sent: 17 February 2011 16:46
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Future of ESOL
Would there need to be an ESOL qual attached unless they need it for
ILR?
From: ESOL-Research discussion forum and message board
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Naomi Nikhata
Sent: 17 February 2011 16:19
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Future of ESOL
I am currently delivering a numeracy for ESOL learners programme at
Entry 3
at Doncaster College. It is proving popular and the learners are finding
that it helps them in their mainstream ESOL classes also. Next year we
are
putting on several more such classes as an alternative to the main ESOL
classes which many learners will not be able to afford. How are you able
to
attach an ESOL qual though without incurring high fees?
_____
From: ESOL-Research discussion forum and message board
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Chanda, Noyona
Sent: 17 February 2011 15:48
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Future of ESOL
For those interested in the ESOL numeracy suggestion made earlier, we at
LLU+ have done a lot of work in this area and agree that you can develop
English language skills building on the numeracy that learners already
have
- whether informal or formal. I wrote an article on this in a NATECLA
Newsletter some years ago and had 26 ESOL learners show up on the first
day
of a "numeracy for ESOL learners" class at a London FE college!
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[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Isabel Arnold
Sent: 17 February 2011 15:41
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Subject: Re: Future of ESOL
This is interesting!
Only today I happened to be working from a numeracy practice paper at
Entry
1 with an ESOL learner (in a voluntary beginners' class); maths is
something
she can do but she needs to develop the language invloved - as you say
in
your email - telling the time, comparatives, money, prepositions of
place,
question forms etc and all the vocabulary that 'narrative problems'
throw
up. It provided an excellent context for her to read and speak!
Embedded ESOL!
Isabel Arnold
> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 15:09:18 +0000
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Future of ESOL
> To: [log in to unmask]
>
> Wrt Gill's call for alternatives, I believe that Entry level Numeracy
can
> provide the answer for ESOL learners at Entry level. If classes are
called
> Skills for Life classes with both ESOL & Numeracy qual targets then
ESOL
> will embed quite neatly into a numeracy SOW eg: numbers, telling the
time,
> reading and extracting info from timetables, comparatives. All of the
> preceding are typical ESOL topics and also are part of E1 & E2 of the
> numeracy curriculum. This would halve the cost of the fees - and give
> increased funding because Entry Numeracy still attracts 1.4 uplift
funding.
>
> Whilst in the classroom this is not too much of a challenge it can
need
> careful setting up for college MIS, learning agreements, admin etc.
some
> colleges will find this hard to cope with but with careful planning &
> getting everyone on board it can work - I know because I have done it!
>
> It's also interesting because if the funding guidance is read
carefully -
> there is a section about the importance of numeracy and that all
literacy
&
> ESOL learners should be screened and offered numeracy if appropriate.
In
> addition, embedding is of course being pushed for functional skills in
> vocational courses - so it's in line with current initiatives. Of
course,
2
> yrs down the line and this avenue might be closed down, too.
>
> Clearly, the learners would have to be on board, too.
>
> For level 1 it might be useful to think about Foundation Learning.
This is
> of course totally free. Can't think of L2 alternatives at this moment.
>
> Luci Woodland
> Starfish ESOL
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ESOL-Research discussion forum and message board
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Gill Evans
> Sent: 17 February 2011 14:14
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Future of ESOL
>
> The cuts to ESOL funding and the changes to eligibility for funding,
> combined with the fact that it appears that ESOL Skills for Life quals
> (along with literacy quals apart from Functional Skills) may not be on
the
> LAD after next year, result in a picture of uncertainty for the
future.
Are
> there any curriculum managers for ESOL and ESOL practioners or
consultants
> who have inspired ideas about how to rebrand ESOL to enable the
maximum
> number of learners to continue with ESOL classes? It is good to see so
much
> activity around the campaign and that the press/media are reporting
the
> issues, but it may also be politic to consider alternatives...
>
> Gill Evans
> Performance Manager ESOL
> 020 7573 5376
>
>
> Opening for September 2011 - Brand new centre, Hortensia Road, SW10.
> http://www.kcc.ac.uk/hortensia/
>
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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 19:38:49 -0000
From: starfish information <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Future of ESOL
I agree; see sentence on funding directive about screening ESOL &
Literacy
learners in my original posting.
From: Frances Nehme [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 17 February 2011 18:43
To: starfish information; [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Future of ESOL
Note of caution on the Numeracy idea.
ESOL learners would need to be assessed for Numeracy level and put in an
appropriate level. We need to be careful about making assumptions.
My experience of running a full-time programme for ESOL (including
Numeracy
and Maths) a few years back, was that a significant proportion had very
good
Maths skills, let alone numeracy. Each year a good number took one of
GCSE,
AS Level or A Level Maths.
We don't want to return to the practices of the era of the last
conservative
government, where 2 Iranian professors of maths newly in the country
were
put in a basic skills return to work programme, including beginners'
maths
Just a thought.
Frances
On 17/2/11 18:26, "starfish information" <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:
I agree; an ESOL qual may not be needed except for MIS/ILR purposes. Of
course the learners might want an ESOL qual so a way of offering it
would
need to be sorted out.
In the past I have done it in 2 ways.
. A 'basket' of quals for each course - selecting the most
appropriate for each learner (heavy on admin) and then splitting the
hours
between the 2 quals on the ILR/Learning agreement. Eg a 90 hour course
would
record 45 hrs ESOL and 45 Num - then only have of the tuition fee needs
to
be passed on to the learner. I have found this is hard for both
lecturers &
admin to get their heads around the paperwork as we're talking about a
number of different permutations.
. 2 separate courses delivered back to back. One advertised as
ESOL
the other Numeracy for ESOL learners. This would mean again a fee for
the
ESOL class but not for the Num class. How the SOW for the 2 classes are
designed would be up to the lecturers; does it really matter if topics
cross
over? This way is easier for admin purposes.
I guess the choice about how it's administrated is really a decision for
each provider according to local contexts and provider support
processes.
From: ESOL-Research discussion forum and message board
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Hall, Lorraine
Sent: 17 February 2011 16:46
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Future of ESOL
Would there need to be an ESOL qual attached unless they need it for
ILR?
From: ESOL-Research discussion forum and message board
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Naomi Nikhata
Sent: 17 February 2011 16:19
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Future of ESOL
I am currently delivering a numeracy for ESOL learners programme at
Entry 3
at Doncaster College. It is proving popular and the learners are finding
that it helps them in their mainstream ESOL classes also. Next year we
are
putting on several more such classes as an alternative to the main ESOL
classes which many learners will not be able to afford. How are you able
to
attach an ESOL qual though without incurring high fees?
_____
From: ESOL-Research discussion forum and message board
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Chanda, Noyona
Sent: 17 February 2011 15:48
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Future of ESOL
For those interested in the ESOL numeracy suggestion made earlier, we at
LLU+ have done a lot of work in this area and agree that you can develop
English language skills building on the numeracy that learners already
have
- whether informal or formal. I wrote an article on this in a NATECLA
Newsletter some years ago and had 26 ESOL learners show up on the first
day
of a "numeracy for ESOL learners" class at a London FE college!
----------------------------------------------
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Director
LLU+ London South Bank University
Tel: +44 (0)20 7815 6282
Fax. +44 (0)20 7815 6280
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[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Isabel Arnold
Sent: 17 February 2011 15:41
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Future of ESOL
This is interesting!
Only today I happened to be working from a numeracy practice paper at
Entry
1 with an ESOL learner (in a voluntary beginners' class); maths is
something
she can do but she needs to develop the language invloved - as you say
in
your email - telling the time, comparatives, money, prepositions of
place,
question forms etc and all the vocabulary that 'narrative problems'
throw
up. It provided an excellent context for her to read and speak!
Embedded ESOL!
Isabel Arnold
> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 15:09:18 +0000
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Future of ESOL
> To: [log in to unmask]
>
> Wrt Gill's call for alternatives, I believe that Entry level Numeracy
can
> provide the answer for ESOL learners at Entry level. If classes are
called
> Skills for Life classes with both ESOL & Numeracy qual targets then
ESOL
> will embed quite neatly into a numeracy SOW eg: numbers, telling the
time,
> reading and extracting info from timetables, comparatives. All of the
> preceding are typical ESOL topics and also are part of E1 & E2 of the
> numeracy curriculum. This would halve the cost of the fees - and give
> increased funding because Entry Numeracy still attracts 1.4 uplift
funding.
>
> Whilst in the classroom this is not too much of a challenge it can
need
> careful setting up for college MIS, learning agreements, admin etc.
some
> colleges will find this hard to cope with but with careful planning &
> getting everyone on board it can work - I know because I have done it!
>
> It's also interesting because if the funding guidance is read
carefully -
> there is a section about the importance of numeracy and that all
literacy
&
> ESOL learners should be screened and offered numeracy if appropriate.
In
> addition, embedding is of course being pushed for functional skills in
> vocational courses - so it's in line with current initiatives. Of
course,
2
> yrs down the line and this avenue might be closed down, too.
>
> Clearly, the learners would have to be on board, too.
>
> For level 1 it might be useful to think about Foundation Learning.
This is
> of course totally free. Can't think of L2 alternatives at this moment.
>
> Luci Woodland
> Starfish ESOL
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ESOL-Research discussion forum and message board
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Gill Evans
> Sent: 17 February 2011 14:14
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Future of ESOL
>
> The cuts to ESOL funding and the changes to eligibility for funding,
> combined with the fact that it appears that ESOL Skills for Life quals
> (along with literacy quals apart from Functional Skills) may not be on
the
> LAD after next year, result in a picture of uncertainty for the
future.
Are
> there any curriculum managers for ESOL and ESOL practioners or
consultants
> who have inspired ideas about how to rebrand ESOL to enable the
maximum
> number of learners to continue with ESOL classes? It is good to see so
much
> activity around the campaign and that the press/media are reporting
the
> issues, but it may also be politic to consider alternatives...
>
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