As ESOL teachers, should we point out the error of form or applaud the attempt to communicate meaning?

>>> linda duckenfield <[log in to unmask]> 06/10/08 5:05 PM >>>
hey folks - although I'm also very keen to help with the ESOL campaign on this and am liaising with UCU - just as a 'miner'point - don't y'all think we should spell devolving kerrektly?
linda

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From: helen weir <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: ESOL Funding Divolving to the LEA
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Hopefully feedback from the consultation will be made public.  If there is evidence that pre entry learners and new arrivals are a priority for a lot of providers, that would be a good basis for a national campaign if the DIUS doesn't act on its findings.  Providers and unions need to keep a close eye on the DIUS response to our response, otherwise millions will have been spent producing the consultation document as a worthless exercise, which could more usefully have been spent providing ESOL classes for pre entry learners!
Helen Weir

> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:30:07 +0100
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> Subject: Re: ESOL Funding Divolving to the LEA
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> What is actually happening with the consultation then? What's the timescale on this? Or is it already in the bag? The NIACE "More than a Language" committee of enquiry, what happened to that? The final documentation was good but what came of it? Did it have an impact on funding? Will this consultation process have an impact on funding? I won't hold my breath. A
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> >>> helen weir <[log in to unmask]> 08/06/2008 13:11 >>>
> Cuts in funding, no funding for pre entry (I've been told there will be no funding next year in our organization for anyone on a non certificated course). What happened to the Save ESOL campaign? I don't think we should be sitting back and letting this happen. It's time for action. Our regional ESOL group (North East) responded to the DIUS consultation and put pre entry learners and new arrivals (whether these are spouses or asylum seekers) as priorities. If you did too, please let me know as I think the unions (UCU and Unison) could be asked to put pressure on funders to put funding back into the lower levels. After all, to get to E3 and work, some people, surprise surprise, need to start at the beginning!
> Helen Weir
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> Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 10:28:37 +0100From: [log in to unmask]: Re: ESOL Funding Divolving to the LEATo: [log in to unmask] 
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> Dan,
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> For the purpose of maintaining free ESOL classes, Birmingham Adult Education Service, one of the biggest providers of ESOL, literacy and numeracy in the country, has drastically reduce the number of E1 and E2 classes, despite this being the area of greatest need, as demonstrated by enormous waiting lists.The city council decided not to provide any extra funding. Further, the budget share between BAES areas does not reflect that some areas offer a higher proportion of all basic skills than others, reflecting local needs, and resulting resource and exam costs. Level 1 and Level 2 ESOL classes have been reclassed as Literacy, so those students are no longer able to take ESOL exams and to get ESOL qualifications. Individual tutors are still trying to meet needs for all the skills, but there is little support. 
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> For example, I was recently told (rather late in the year) that I should not be using past ESOL writing papers as a source of writing tasks in my L1/L2 classes. No one has offered me or my colleagues an equivalent from literacy. A colleague and I have agreed some end-of-year assessment tasks for our L1/L2 students, and we have managed to get a rather unspecific certificate form agreed by management. We have spent hours working on this in our own unpaid time, as we are sessionally paid, and without support from ESOL or Literacy managers. We know from past experience that NNES are frequently given a harder time when they want to join vocational or academic courses and in job interviews, so we felt we should offer students something they can use as evidence of learning.
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> Prospective learners at E1 and E2 have been on waiting lists since October and November and have still not, in far too many cases, been given class places, and many more, probably hundreds (I could try to check) have been turned away from one large centre alone. I also do some initial assessments (we are allowed 20 minutes per person, including paperwork and checking proofs); it is frustrating and heartbreaking to have to turn so many people away. Worse yet, people who were turned away last year because they did not have a year's residence often had to be turned away when they returned because there was no class place for them, and no chance of one becoming available. These were spouses who needed ESOL in order to secure ILR.
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> Cheryl ThornettESOL tutorBirmingham Adult Education
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
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> Pam is right. Funding still via LSC and then one assumes the Skills Funding Agency after 2010 but priorities set by local authorities. There is a DIUS 24 hour residential next week to pick up the next steps in this.On another note are people picking up cuts to lower level ESOL and Skills for Life. I am getting reports that those skills for life and ESOL which are not Leitch targets are development learning and are being squeezed. If this is happening to your organisation would love to know more.Dan TaubmanNational Official UCU Colleges Department27 Britannia StreetLondon WC 1 X9JPDirect Line: 0207 520 3230E-mail: [log in to unmask] *********************************** ESOL-Research is a forum for researchers and practitioners with an interest in research into teaching and learning ESOL. ESOL-Research is managed by James Simpson at the Centre for Language Education Research, School of Education, University of Leeds. To join or leave ESOL-Research,
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