It will be as much use as the national id card (especially in the light of
the news that the current bunch were "just ordinary kids"). So little
terrorism in so much traffic and so large a society. Needles and haystacks.
So, AK47, semtex, explosion, rush hour, random city..... Edinburgh
That would be enough, potentially even now, to alert the security services.
If you don't hear from me again?
One rather hopes that the UKIC is able to stamp on this rubbish, BUT we have
the "alleged national security" exemption
We go back to the old peer pressure adage "Them with nothing to hide has
nothing to fear".
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[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Carl Johnson
Sent: 13 July 2005 07:36
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Subject: [data-protection] Monitoring of call, sms and email data
"The home secretary is also expected to make a fresh push to compel internet
and phone companies across Europe to retain their record of traffic on
millions of private e-mails, text messages and mobile phone calls for up to
three years.
Foreign Secretary Jack Straw has already argued that the cost of forcing
firms across the EU to keep the records is worth paying to stop terror
attacks."
Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4677241.stm
I seem to remember them talking about this whilst they were introducing
RIPA. All the talk of "Black boxes" at ISP data centres and so on. I believe
business managed to stop that due to the cost.
What exactly are they proposing? Its not clear.
Telco's retain Itemised billing records for upto a year or two and upto six
(or is it seven) on copies of invoices for VAT purposes. Isn't that
sufficient or are they referring to all the fields of CDR's?
As for email, if I were to setup my own email servers (10 minutes work) or
use email servers outside the countries covered by these proposals, I'd
easily circumvent these measures - as I'm sure any net savvy terrorist would
realise.
So I fail to see the benefit from this. Can anyone enlighten me?
As for the cost, who will have to cover these costs, I suspect the
businesses and ultimatley, the customers. Surely, any cost for a pointless
system is not worth paying, just like with ID cards (which the Home
Secretary accepts would have made no difference last week).
Even Tony Blair said "we should not let this affect our way of life" yet it
seems every week they introduce some draconian legislation which at best is
"unlikely" to make a difference in stopping terrorist attacks but does a
very good job of invading our privacy or curtailling our civil liberties.
Isn't that exactly what the terrorists want? Its about time they were made
to justify these actions rather than just imposing their will on us.
We all know that companies will comply with what they are compelled by
government to do, will any of them be lobbying against this seeing as the
public don't understand the issue and therefore, won't make much comment?
Carl
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