Simple - if there are any objections, anonymous or not, they'll probably
think it was you anyway, and so you're knackered whether you objected or
not.
Next question?
> ----------
> From: Tim Trent[SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> Reply To: Tim Trent
> Sent: 02 June 2005 15:15
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [data-protection] Opinions sought - Planning
> Applications
>
> Convenience notwithstanding, picture this:
>
> You live next door to a rather unpleasant family of chavs. They have
> decided to ask for planning consent for an ENORMOUS extension that
> overlooks
> your property (among several other properties).
>
> You have long been scared of your neighbours, the more so since they have
> rowdy friends visit, and party until 2am. One of them has threatened your
> 10 year old daughter because she went into their front garden to get her
> ball back.
>
> You want to object to the application which you saw posted on your
> lamppost,
> but you know your name will be given to the chavs next door. You fear
> threats and other reprisals because of your quite reasonable objection.
>
> You now have a major problem:
>
> Do you object and risk having the bejasus beaten out of you, or do you
> hope
> the planning officer will see sense without your objection?
>
> How dies a scenario like this get solved by the local authority?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Tim Turner
> Sent: 02 June 2005 15:06
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [data-protection] Opinions sought - Planning Applications
>
> I live at the edge of Manchester City Council's area. Not putting planning
> applications on the web at all means that if I want to look at a planning
> application, I have to pay to travel into Manchester (and as I work in
> Wigan, I'll need to take time off work to do this) and go to the planning
> department in normal working hours. Alternatively, I could look on a
> website
> at home when I have the time to think about it. Which approach allows me,
> a
> Manchester Council Taxpayer, greater access? I think putting planning
> applications on the web increases the possibility of participation. I
> think
> the risks are small, and the benefits could be large. I carry no torch for
> eGoverment or targets, but I do think that local government processes can
> be
> opaque, and any effort to widen access to them is a good thing. What we do
> in local government shouldn't be accessible only to specialists.
>
> > ----------
> > From: Antoinette Carter[SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> > Reply To: [log in to unmask]
> > Sent: 02 June 2005 14:38
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: [data-protection] Opinions sought - Planning
> > Applications
> >
> > I have a lot of sympathy with this view. The main objective of a
> > transparent planning process is to allow those people affected, ie.
> > the people actually living there, to have a say in proceedings. By
> > that definition, all those concerned must be geographically close to
> > the Town Hall for their borough. The argument that making access
> > available worldwide via the Web adds any value for the borough's
> > residents is weak at best, and is probably negated altogether when you
> > take into account the loss of privacy, and the possible threat to
> > individuals' personal safety.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues
> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of [log in to unmask]
> > Sent: 02 June 2005 14:19
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: [data-protection] Opinions sought - Planning Applications
> >
> > In a message dated 02/06/05 12:10:06 GMT Daylight Time,
> > [log in to unmask] writes (snip):
> >
> > > . I would like to ask another question: what is the effect of
> > > maintaining a system where access to the planning process is limited
> > > to people who go to the Town Hall?
> >
> > -------
> > Did it not work well for a number of years before the Internet? Did
> > it not actually work better than it does now? Was there not a more
> > consistent approach to building? Were not the buildings themselves
> > more aesthetically pleasing?
> > Have councils seen an increase in applications or objections since
> > planning went on-line? If not, what is the objective?
> >
> > It cannot achieve total popular coverage so why is it done? To
> > achieve targets. Targets that were set by government in an arbitrary
> fashion.
> > People do not want e-government, government does. The government has
> > recently issued directives to councils to force the public to use
> > electronic payments, electronic applications and e-systems in general,
> > by stoppping the manual (personal
> > contact) alternative where possible.
> >
> > I have never suggested the system is closed down, nor that it does not
> > present an opportunity for those with no domestic problems. What I
> > object to is that councils are now being told to put the details on
> > the web regardless of the wishes of the individual. This is wrong. I
> > hope councils ignore the advice and actually ask people whether they
> > object, then respect those wishes.
> >
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