Tim Trent on Friday, February 25, 2005 at 10:30 AM said:-
> I am not using it for business purposes at all. I am using
> the personal pronoun to mean "little old me" only, and
> divorced totally form any business activities. In fact the
> data is 100% "business useless" in the way this system delivers it
A hope had existed of trying to ascertain how the domestic purpose exemption
was generally perceived more widely.
i.e.
as an exemption perceived to apply to data irrespective of original
purpose(s);
or
as a restrictive exemption only available only within confined
circumstances.
The situation described clearly falls within the s.36 confining
circumstances, but other misinterpretations can seem to be applied at times.
The difference between original purpose and purpose of processing at the
time of an enquiry often seems to become confused. Almost akin to a private
or public question.
Ian W
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> issues [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Tim Trent
> Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 10:30 AM
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> Subject: Re: No US DP Laws
>
>
> I am not using it for business purposes at all. I am using
> the personal pronoun to mean "little old me" only, and
> divorced totally form any business activities. In fact the
> data is 100% "business useless" in the way this system delivers it
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> issues [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ian Welton
> Sent: 25 February 2005 10:20
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> Subject: Re: [data-protection] No US DP Laws
>
> Whilst you may claim the domestic purpose exemption, what
> purpose is the database held and processed for by the business?
>
> Ian W
>
> > -----Original Message-----
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> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Tim Trent
> > Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 9:05 PM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: No US DP Laws
> >
> >
> > I tend to think that this is paranoia. Why would it matter
> if a child
> > gave out a phone number?
> >
> > The current preoccupation with paedophilia misses one vital point.
> > Most people who are molested and abused are abused by people known
> > well to them. Family, friends of the family and people in
> positions of
> > power over children tend to be the abusers. These people
> tend to know
> > where the child lives.
> >
> > The "Random Stranger" and the message "don't go with a
> stranger miss
> > the point by a huge distance. There will always be the newsworthy
> > exception. But these are exceptions, and are usually spur of the
> > moment incidents. That poor child some years ago from (I think)
> > Wokingham, Mark Tyldesly
> > (spoiling?) at a fairground, for example. The high profile
> girl who
> > was abducted by a man in a van while on a picnic with her
> family. That
> > has always been with us, and will always be with us.
> >
> > But, if we are to go down this tack, made popular by the mass media
> > because grief and righteous indignation sells papers and
> advertising,
> > we need to be clear on the facts.
> >
> > One relevant one here is "Is the data capable of
> identifying a living
> > individual?"
> >
> > I seem to be ranting. I think it is worth ranting over
> this because
> > we need a calm perspective over such things.
> >
> > I have a database I have bought legitimately that includes the UK
> > electoral roll. I have found a long lost colleague by vaguely
> > recalling his wife's name and knowing his forename. Extracting that
> > data and running queries on it gave me high probability matches.
> > Amazingly they are still married after 30 years, ands I have found
> > him. Is that not more intrusive?
> >
> > Oh yes. I claim the "Domestic Purposes Exemption"
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
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> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Brenda
> Scourfield
> > Sent: 24 February 2005 14:48
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: [data-protection] No US DP Laws
> >
> > I was mailed this today - it doesn't work for UK numbers.
> >
> > Google has implemented a new feature wherein you can type someone's
> > telephone number into the search bar and hit enter and then
> you will
> > be given a map to their house. Everyone should be aware of this!
> >
> > Note that you can have your phone number removed or blocked. Before
> > forwarding this, I tested it by typing my telephone number in
> > Google.com. My phone number came up, and when I clicked on the
> > MapQuest link, it actually mapped out where I live. Quite scary.
> > Please look up your own number. Read below for details.
> >
> > Think about it--if a child, ANYONE gives out his/her phone number,
> > someone can actually now look it up to find out where he/she lives.
> > The safety issues are obvious, and alarming. In order to
> test whether
> > your phone number is mapped, go to:
> <http://www.google.com/> Type your
> > phone number in the search bar (i.e. 555-555-1212) and hit
> enter. If
> > you want to BLOCK Google from divulging your private information,
> > simply click on the telephone icon next to your phone number. I
> > removed my name, but it takes 48-hours. If you are unlisted in the
> > phone book, you might not be in there, but it is a good
> idea just to
> > check. If your number does come up if you hit map,it will
> show you a
> > direct map to your house...
> >
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