So essentially, instead of the state only wanting our taxes and the
occasional vote, they want us to be answeable to them for every little bit
of our lives. Doesn't that bother you? I find it abohrent. These things just
keep coming. Talk about lack of vision.
Carl
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Sent: 13 July 2005 14:02
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [data-protection] Monitoring of call, sms and email data
I can enlighten you. The benefit will be the ability to spot, and take
action against, the less-than-intelligent criminal selling stolen goods on
e-bay.
Terrorists will learn not to use mobiles, e-mail and land lines. They'll
meet secretly in a secure location without CCTV.
If they do use an electronic form of communiction they'll use a
sophisticated code that won't be cracked until after the event.
The weather on the 15th of this month is going to be very hot, especially in
the park.
Ian B
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In a message dated 13/07/05 07:36:35 GMT Daylight Time,
[log in to unmask] writes:
> "The home secretary is also expected to make a fresh push to compel
> internet
> and phone companies across Europe to retain their record of traffic on
> millions of private e-mails, text messages and mobile phone calls for up
to
> three years.
>
> Foreign Secretary Jack Straw has already argued that the cost of forcing
> firms across the EU to keep the records is worth paying to stop terror
> attacks."
>
> Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4677241.stm
>
> I seem to remember them talking about this whilst they were introducing
> RIPA. All the talk of "Black boxes" at ISP data centres and so on. I
believe
> business managed to stop that due to the cost.
>
> What exactly are they proposing? Its not clear.
>
> Telco's retain Itemised billing records for upto a year or two and upto
six
> (or is it seven) on copies of invoices for VAT purposes. Isn't that
> sufficient or are they referring to all the fields of CDR's?
>
> As for email, if I were to setup my own email servers (10 minutes work) or
> use email servers outside the countries covered by these proposals, I'd
> easily circumvent these measures - as I'm sure any net savvy terrorist
would
> realise.
>
> So I fail to see the benefit from this. Can anyone enlighten me?
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