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Re: qualifications for psychologists

From:

Amanda Kent <[log in to unmask]>

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Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff.

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Mon, 11 Aug 2008 08:17:49 +0100

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Would the LA check the evidence provided by any other category of disabled 
student against a check-list intended to determine suitability of evidence 
for DSA eligibility? 


Amanda Kent



On Sat, 9 Aug 2008 14:49:35 +0100, Jeff Hughes <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>The AEP does not issue practice certificates.
>
>However, continued membership depends on continuing qualification as an EP
>as described in my earlier posting.
>
>An interesting aside to this is that LAs can employ EPs who are neither
>members of BPsS nor AEP yet do have appropriate qualifications.
>
>Would they refuse their own employee's report???
>
>I am not convinced that the EP training courses do specifically train to
>the working party report.
>
>More will be clearer next year (or when every the HPC gets into gear....)
>
>Jeff
>
>
>>>>>
>===========================================================
>Jeff Hughes   Chartered Information Technology Professional
>Chartered Scientist      Chartered Educational Psychologist
>Special Needs Computing     psychologist.co.uk    Box42 Ltd
>E: [log in to unmask]  [log in to unmask]   W: www.box42.com
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>> Dear Julia, 
>>   
>> The DIUS guidance gives the BPS as one example of a professional 
association,
> 
>> not the sole qualifying body.  
>>   
>> http://www.dcsf.gov.uk/studentsupport/dsa__1.shtml 
>>   
>> DSA specific learning difficulties group (dyslexia, dyspraxia, 
dyscalculia
>and  
>> AD(H)D) 
> 
>> <http://www.dcsf.gov.uk/studentsupport/www.sasc.org.uk>  
> 
>> ... 
> 
>> The success of the new framework recommended in the report relies 
heavily on  
>> the support of local authorities who are strongly encouraged to adopt 
the  
>> recommendations. The following schedule shows dates for introducing 
specific  
>> parts of the framework described in the report’s recommendations. 
> 
>>   
> 
>> Diagnostic assessments carried out before September 2006 
> 
>> ·        Local authorities to accept diagnostic assessments carried out 
by  
>> psychologists and suitably qualified specialist teachers. Specialist 
teachers
> 
>> who assess dyslexia should hold AMBDA (Associate Membership of the 
British  
>> Dyslexia Association) or a qualification from an advanced training course
>which  
>> assesses adults for dyslexia and is recognised by the British Dyslexia  
>> Association’s Accreditation Board. 
> 
>> Diagnostic assessments carried out between September 2006 and August 
2007 
> 
>> ·        Local authorities to accept diagnostic assessments carried out 
by  
>> psychologists and suitably qualified specialist teachers as above. 
> 
>> ·        Diagnostic reports to be in the format recommended in the 
SpLDs  
>> Working Group’s report. 
> 
>> ·        Diagnostic reports to use tests recommended in the SpLDs 
Working  
>> Group’s guidelines or added by the SpLD Test Evaluation Committee 
(STEC). 
> 
>> Diagnostic assessments carried out between September 2007 and August 
2008 
> 
>> ·        Local authorities to accept diagnostic reports from 
psychologists
>and  
>> specialist teachers. Specialist teachers must hold a current practising 
 
>> certificate in assessing specific learning difficulties issued by their 
 
>> relevant professional association (for example, the Professional 
Association
>of  
>> Teachers of Students with Specific Learning Difficulties (PATOSS) or 
Dyslexia
> 
>> Action). Psychologists must hold a current practising certificate issued 
by  
>> their relevant professional association (for example, the British
>Psychological  
>> Society). 
> 
>> ·        Diagnostic reports to be in the report format recommended in 
the  
>> SpLDs Working Group’s guidelines. 
> 
>> ·        Diagnostic reports to use tests recommended in the SpLDs 
Working  
>> Group’s guidelines or added by the SpLD Test Evaluation Committee 
(STEC). 
> 
>> Diagnostic assessments carried out from September 2008 
> 
>> ·        Procedures as from September 2007 above plus the following. 
> 
>> ·        All training for assessing specific learning difficulties to  
>> incorporate the SpLDs Working Group’s guidelines. 
> 
>>   
> 
>>   
>>   
> 
>> 	-----Original Message-----  
>> 	From: Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff. 
on
>behalf  
>> of Julia Tait  
>> 	Sent: Wed 06/08/2008 11:44  
>> 	To: [log in to unmask]  
>> 	Cc:  
>> 	Subject: Re: qualifications for psychologists 
>> 	 
>> 	 
>> 	That's very helpful.  Thank you. 
>> 	Julia 
>> 	 
>> 	Jeff Hughes wrote:  
> 
>> 		If the organisation referred to is the AEP (Association of 
Educational 
>> 		Psychologists) which has its office in Durham then the be a 
member you have 
>> 		to be fully qualified. 
>> 		 
>> 		That is a first degree in psychology and postgraduate 
qualifications in 
>> 		Teaching and Educational Psychology. 
>> 		 
>> 		There are no EPs qualified by the new three years doctoral 
route yet. 
>> 		 
>> 		Sometimes this is stated as being "eligible" for british 
Psychological 
>> 		Society (BPsS) Division of Educational and Child Psychology 
(DECP) 
>> 		membership. 
>> 		 
>> 		However to join the AEP you do NOT have to be a member of the 
BPsS as well. 
>> 		 
>> 		 
>> 		To have a practice certificate you have to be a member of the 
BPsS - 
>> 		satisfying the same criteria as the AEP membership AND you must 
be a 
>> 		Chartered Psychologist. 
>> 		 
>> 		Not all psychologists are members of the BPsS and not all who 
are members 
>> 		of the BPsS are Chartered. 
>> 		 
>> 		It is NOT necessary to be in the BPsS to practice as a 
psychologist in the 
>> 		UK nor is it necessary to be Chartered. 
>> 		 
>> 		Next year (or when they finally get round to it all 
psychologists who 
>> 		practice WILL have to register with the Health Professions 
Council (HPC) 
>> 		but once again it will not be necessary to be a member of the 
BPsS nor to 
>> 		be Chartered - all BPsS Chartered Psychologists, DECP members 
and members 
>> 		of the AEP will be entered automatically in the new register. 
(Similar 
>> 		provisions are in place for other types of psychologists.) 
>> 		 
>> 		 
>> 		I think you will have worked out that the psychologist 
concerned, if a 
>> 		member of the AEP (never heard of the ABEP!), is well enough 
qualified to 
>> 		do the assessment for this student. It follows that the person 
refusing to 
>> 		accept the report would be wrong not the psychologist. 
>> 		 
>> 		I would suggest you ask the psychologist directly for their CV 
and ask them 
>> 		to take the issue back to the decision maker! 
>> 		 
>> 		Jeff 
>> 		 
>> 		 
>> 		 
>> 		 
>> 		   
>> 		=========================================================== 
>> 		Jeff Hughes   Chartered Information Technology Professional 
>> 		Chartered Scientist      Chartered Educational Psychologist 
>> 		Special Needs Computing     psychologist.co.uk    Box42 Ltd 
>> 		E: [log in to unmask]  [log in to unmask]   W: www.box42.com  
>> <http://www.box42.com/>  
>> 		=========================================================== 
>> 		   
>> 		+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 
>> 		Its Our Time .. Its Our Place .. Right NOW! 
>> 		Its all happening here in Liverpool in 2008 
>> 		Find out what you could do by clicking here 
>> 		http://www.liverpool08.com/Events/index.asp 
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>> 		 
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>> 		 
>> 		This e-mail, and attachments, are intended for the named 
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>> 		All information contained here is privileged and confidential. 
>> 		 
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>> 		and permanently delete the message and all address 
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>> 		 
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700 442 
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7211 52  
>> 		 
>> 		 
>> 		 
>> 		 
>> 		 
>> 		   
> 
>> 			We have recently had a dyslexia assessment report 
submitted which was
>carried 
>> 			     
> 
>> 		  
>> 		   
> 
>> 			out by an Educational Psychologist who does not hold a 
practising
>certificate 
>> 			     
> 
>> 		  
>> 		   
> 
>> 			from BPS but he is a member of the Association of British 
Educational   
>> 			Psychologists.   The LEA has turned down the report, 
leaving the severely
> 
>> 			dyslexic student with no DSA, as the EP has no practising 
certificate in 
>> 			     
> 
>> 		spite   
>> 		   
> 
>> 			of the fact that the report is competent and uses the 
relevant tests, as   
>> 			outlined in the working party guidelines.   The student 
paid 400 for the   
>> 			assessment and is understandably not happy about the 
prospect of handing
>out  
>>   
>> 			another 3-400.   Has anyone out there had a similar 
experience; what is
>the   
>> 			status of the ABEP and can you suggest any solutions?    
>> 			     
> 
>> 		  
>> 		   
> 
>> 			Thank you.     
>> 			-- Julia Tait Adviser for Students with Dyslexia & Other 
Specific Learning
>  
>> 			Difficulties Student Services, Oxford Brookes University 
Helena Kennedy 
>> 			     
> 
>> 		Student   
>> 		   
> 
>> 			Centre, Headington Hill Campus Oxford OX3 0BP 01865 
484659  
>> 			     
> 
>> 		  
>> 		 
>> 		   
> 
> 
>> 	--  
>> 	Julia Tait 
>> 	Adviser for Students with Dyslexia  
>> 	& Other Specific Learning Difficulties 
>> 	Student Services, 
>> 	Oxford Brookes University 
>> 	Helena Kennedy Student Centre, 
>> 	Headington Hill Campus 
>> 	Oxford OX3 0BP 
>> 	 
>> 	01865 484659 
> 

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