An interesting discussion, we already provide the "notes in advance" adjustment for dyslexic students to ALL students as it is of benefit in so many ways
Regards
John
Dr John Conway
On 13 Mar 2012, at 17:25, "Alistair McNaught" <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
> If I was being charged nine grand a year to be a student this is the least I'd expect.
Absolutely – it’s not about special support for some but appropriate support for all. Might make people reconsider what the “value added” of lectures is as well and that might not be a bad thing.
A
From: Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff. [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Simon Jarvis
Sent: 13 March 2012 12:21
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Subject: Re: What is "Reasonable"?
To answer the question in the title of the email, it is reasonable to provide note-takers and unfortunately, as the universe is full of imperfections, people sometimes don't turn up. When I was a needs assessor I'd often recommend a digital recorder for students that needed a note-taker as back-up solution, although I'd make a more comprehensive justification that that in the report.
The university that I am in the employ of are encouraging academic staff to consent to have their lectures recorded and posted on to the student intranet (all sessions are recorded and staff have to opt-out if they are not happy with this) which strikes me as a 21st century solution to these types of issues, to say nothing of a social model one.
I'd like to think that in the next decade all students, disabled or otherwise, will be able to access their taught sessions via a sound and vision recording. If I was being charged nine grand a year to be a student this is the least I'd expect.
Simon
On 13/03/2012 11:33, Tim Symons wrote:
Hum...
How about having several modern digital recorders to provide to students in this, or a similar situation, then having the recording transcribed?
My 2 cents...
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From: Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff. [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Dylan Griffiths
Sent: 13 March 2012 11:07
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Subject: What is "Reasonable"?
(Apologies for cross-posting)
We have had a complaint from a student regarding notetaking support.
A notetaker emailed in sick the night before a lecture and so this was not picked up until the morning, just before the 9am lecture. Due to the short notice that the coordinator had (effectively less than 5 minutes after they started work for the day), no notetaker could be found in the time given.
In a second occasion, a different notetaker had a last-minute emergency, and informed both student and coordinator within 3 hours of the lecture starting in the afternoon, and again, no cover could be found at short notice.
Both occasions were from two reliable notetakers, and so they were exceptional circumstances, but unfortunately both happened to the same student.
The student is now complaining that by not providing notetaking support as a reasonable adjustment, we are effectively discriminating against the student. Other avenues of obtaining notes are being pursued (such as finding a fellow student whose notes would be suitable, asking the lecturers directly, finding a recording of the lecture, etc.), but these may still result in no notes for the student.
Could other institutions let me know what their policy is regarding lectures which have no cover at short notice, and how an unfortunate lack of support is communicated to students?
Thanks.
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