Nicely made point... control yourself.
Like the difference between a
toy gun and a real one, in the digital age, joking is not acceptable,
as any recorded will come back in another context to haunt you.
It
becomes somewhat like shooting an innocent person because they are
suspected of being an armed killer. I suppose any excuse for officially
killing somebody would be very similar to a jokers excuse for
originally making the joke, and yet the smallest bit of privacy would
have avoided the problem.
At least everybody was eventually safe.
Ian W
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To answer your question(s).
Yes, it is acceptable, but within normal
boundaries and with the understanding that with many jokes, someone
somewhere will be offended.
No. DP should protect jokers. If the
jokers are witless enough to write what they did when everyone knows
how seriously ALL countries take their security, then that's their look
out. Heavy handedness is another matter.
In terms of when to joke and
when not to joke, that is surely a judgement call for the adult
concerned? I once had approximately 8 French security police point the
same number of MP5 machine guns at myself and my wife in Charles De
Gaulle Airport. This was due to my son (age 7 at the time) putting his
toy gun into the hand luggage without anyone noticing. In circumstances
such as this, in order to take my mind off my weakening sphincter
muscles I would consider telling a joke. I thought of saying "Wow,
where were you guys in 1940?" but realised that this was probably not
the right way forward. After a few choice words from French security we
were allowed on our way (minus toy gun). If I can judge when to joke
and when not to, I am sure most other people can!
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Sent: 21 February 2012 11:56
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Given that the use of
jokes can minimise harm to people during a tense time, bring people
together around a common understanding or illustrate a conflicting
issue between them and that others may well then misuse humour as a
method to divert attention from a real intention or use humour in such
a way as to confuse, is it any surprise there are various
interpretations of when it is appropriate.
Considering the
various
uses of humour, a failure of humour would most regularly appear as a
general form of conduct where fear of misuse is a ruling factor.
Humourless or humorously it seems you make your own personal choice to
include or exclude humour in the different facets of the life you
choose to live, or recognise it.
Having spent many years around the
legal/security area, which are more inclined to generally be more
humourless, because, as has been stated in other posts, humour when it
goes wrong in those situations costs lives so is seen as dangerous and
often difficult to control within appropriate boundaries (note the
control word, on the surface somewhat paradoxical in that context).
Conversely the education sector frequently seems to use humour as part
of play and almost as a means of motivating learning.
Question:- Is
humour in areas where lives or wellbeing are not in any way at risk
acceptable?
Is it acceptable in any way within the DP arena?
Shoud
DP protect jokers?
Smiling.
Ian W
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[data-protection] Truly amazing!
It isn't just a US
phenomenum and the
consequences over here can be more serious than a
missed holiday....
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/02/09/twitter_joke_trial_appeal/http://www.guardian.co.uk/law/2012/feb/08/twitter-joke-case-court-appeal
Chris Bayliss
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I think the bad
guy being lucky once is one of the bad guys that only NEEDS to be lucky
once - when you are dead, you can't have a second go.
Luck is also an
interesting word. Was it Arnold Palmer who, when a commentator said to
him "That was a lucky round" said, "funny, the more I practice the
luckier I get"?
I sort of side with the authorities on this, but
that's probably just me with sense of humour failure. Which reminds me
of a guy going through Atlanta Airport about three years ago, in the
same queue as us for passport control. He was 6ft 3in at least and had
a T-Shirt proclaiming "Department of Homeland Security. Fighting
tourism since 1945". Not a peep out of the authorities on that one.
Simon Howarth MBCS CITP
www.informationedge.co.uk
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In message
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at 14:00:20 on Fri, 17 Feb 2012, Chris Brogan <[log in to unmask]
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writes
> remember; the bad guys only have to be lucky once. The
good guys have to
be lucky all the time.
A quote that's sometimes used
the other way round - the bad guys have to be lucky every time (not to
get caught) and the good guys just have to be lucky once (following a
lead that this time does identify the bad guys).
--
Roland Perry
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