I'm also interested in how we can support students using symbols in linguistics too. Any ideas?
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From: Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff. [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Emma Rowlett
Sent: 05 November 2008 11:25
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Subject: Re: Jaws
When it comes to maths this is something that has been discussed in
the working group I helped set up -the AccessMSOR Working Group -
which looks at supporting visually impaired students in mathematics
based subjects. If anyone is interested in joining what is essentially
just a mailing list at this point then email my husband
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Thanks,
Emma
On 05/11/2008, E.A. Draffan <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> This has been a long standing problem as we all know but options are being
> developed and it may be useful to look at the Infty Project with OCR and a
> Reader http://www.inftyproject.org/en/index.html
>
>
> Best wishes E.A.
>
> Mrs E.A. Draffan
> Learning Societies Lab,
> ECS, University of Southampton,
> Tel +44 (0)23 8059 7246
> http://www.lexdis.ecs.soton.ac.uk
> http://www.emptech.info
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>
> From: Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff.
>
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Peter J Halls
> Sent: 05 November 2008 07:08
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Jaws
>
> John,
>
> if the document contains significant equations or other mathematical
> material, the source is most likely to be TeX, or one of its derivatives,
> rather
> than Word / OpenOffice Writer ... and, in such cases, there can be no .doc
> or
> .rtf format. In this case, PDF is pretty much the only (nearly) accessible
> format available. So far as I can see, we are a long way from achieving
> accessible maths.
>
> Peter
>
> John Conway wrote:
> > Well said.
> >
> > even truly accessible PDF are inaccessible to dyslexics who cannot change
> font face or colour schemes! One such student has just had to have a reader
> in an exam solely because the document supplied for use during the exam was
> only available as a PDF image and so she could not read it.
> >
> > surely it should be obligatory to supply the Word or RTF version????
> >
> >
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> > From: Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff. on
> behalf of Silver, Liz
> > Sent: Tue 04/11/2008 14:07
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: Jaws
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Following the replies you have already received, there are a couple of
> major factors being overlooked. First of all, even if the alternative
> technology such as Thunder can be loaded onto a memory stick, not all Jaws
> users will want to be having to use technology which is not as useful or
> flexible as Jaws, and will not want to have to learn how to use this new
> software. Secondly, even with a PDF file which is readable using Jaws, they
> are still a pain in all sorts of places as it is really difficult to
> actually search say for a specific word in the document and even if you can
> get over that hurdle, there is then no way of actually marking what you have
> found or adding any notes for future reference. Speaking as a Jaws user, as
> might be obvious, I think When told that something is only available in PDF
> the response should always be that it is required in Word or RTF etc and
> this is a reasonable adjustment and just having to cope with a PDF version
> is not acceptable. Rant ove
> r!
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Liz
> >
> > Liz Silver
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> > From: Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff.
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Callaghan, Brigid
> > Sent: 03 November 2008 13:57
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Jaws
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> >
> >
> > Does anyone know of any developments in the assistive technology world for
> blind students? Is there any better package available than Jaws, which has
> fewer problems or none at all in fact with 'reading' PDF. Please remember in
> your reply that I not an experienced techie ; - ).
> >
> >
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> >
> > Many thanks
> >
> >
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