Sorry this is not really on this subject, more picking up on something
Ian said below - I have looked for an FOI list on the jiscmail website
and was unable to find one (except for Wales and Northern Ireland). I
accept I am probably being fuzzy-minded (it is Tuesday morning after
all) but can anyone point me in the right direction?
Thanks,
Tanya
>>> Ian Welton <[log in to unmask]> 24/01/2005 16:44:00 >>>
This would seem more of a question for the FOI list, but imagine there
may
be many valid ways; such as formulating a request for
outstanding/pending
information within a specified function(s) or asking for information
received within a specified time period which may still be held within
the
physical in/pending trays of specified function(s). What do managers
ask?
The subject access rules would of course, post Durant, not seem to
apply to
some of the personal data held in that way, although I would stand to
be
corrected on that.
Ian W
> -----Original Message-----
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> issues [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
> Smith, Tony
> Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 4:13 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Pending Trays
>
>
> How could you word any request under FOI? As I understand it,
> if you only want information about yourself, it would be
> subject to the absolute exemption to personal data that is
> available under the FOI. If you wanted information about 3rd
> parties, it would be unlikely that you could meet the
> provisions for qualified exemption. If you asked for the
> contents of all pending trays, it would be refused as too
> general a request. However, I stand to be corrected.
>
> Tony
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection
> issues [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Ian
Welton
> Sent: 24 January 2005 11:31
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Pending Trays
>
>
> Would the contents then be subject to FOI?
>
> Ian W
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues
> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Carter,
> > Antoinette (CCM)
> > Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 11:29 AM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: FW: [data-protection] Pending Trays
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Carter, Antoinette (CCM)
> > Sent: 24 January 2005 11:20
> > To: 'Ian Welton'
> > Subject: RE: [data-protection] Pending Trays
> >
> > Interesting question for a Monday morning. I would say that
> > irrespective of Durrant, an in-tray is not a "relevant
> filing system"
> > because you have not carried out the task of "filing", it is
> > pre-filing not post-filing! An unopened envelope arriving in an
> > in-tray is not "processing personal data", the personal
> data contained
> > in it is only revealed when you perform the processing task
> of opening
> > the letter and reading it. I think it is only when you've read
it,
> > decided whether or not to bin it, and decided that you
> > shouldn't, that any sort of "filing" has taken place.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues
> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ian Welton
> > Sent: 24 January 2005 10:31
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: [data-protection] Pending Trays
> >
> > Would a physical 'In-Tray' or 'Pending-Tray' be categorised
> as a post
> > Durant filing system?
> >
> > If not, why not and what DPA issues would capture 'any'
> personal data
> > so held?
> >
> > Ian w
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