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Subject:

Re: Opinions sought - Planning Applications

From:

Lawrence Serewicz <[log in to unmask]>

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Date:

Fri, 3 Jun 2005 10:55:07 +0100

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I agree that the dissident in question needs protection.  However, I might 
point out that if the regime in question wants to find their man or woman, 
they will not do it solely through an internet search. 

First, is the name a registered search field within the planning 
application webpage? If a webpage is not configured to allow searching by 
name, then a search engine cannot find it. The planning applications can 
be searchable by number or some other reference which will not give up the 
name, at least not directly.  Therefore, the regime in question will need 
to trawl through millions of pages on the off chance they may find the 
planning application with the name in question. 

Second, if the person in question has unusual characteristics, and the 
regime in question has a good idea where he or she lives, ie London, they 
can quickly begin to narrow the search.  For example, they can go to known 
associates. Dissidents and refugees from foreign countries usually 
associate with their countrymen.  A case in point is or was the white 
Russian emigres in Paris after the Russian Revolution. 

Third, if the person in question needs political protection, I would be 
surprised if an exemption could not be made.  Common sense allows for such 
discretion.  However, common sense may be lacking in the law.

Fourth, dissidents and refugees are found by tyrannical regimes, without a 
planning application.  Take for example the two Chinese dissidents who 
were killed in London a few years ago.  They were living quite anonymously 
in their flat, their neighbours did not know their status, and they were 
found and  killed.  Their murders remain unsolved. 

Or take for example the CIA officers who were shot and killed on their 
drive into CIA headquarters in the early 1990s.  The gunman was a Pashtuni 
tribesman seeking revenge for a perceived, or real, betrayal of a relative 
by these officers in Pakistan.  He found them without a planning 
application being submitted nor was the attacker helped by a tyrannical 
regime.

Or take for example the former commander of the USS Vincennes, (He gave 
the order to shoot down the Iranian Airbus) who without a planning 
application, had a bomb planted on his vehicle at a stoplight in San 
Diego. He survived the attack.  Again, he was found and attacked without 
recourse to a planning application.  The attackers may have been helped by 
the Iranian government, but that has not been proven conclusively.

Or take for example my friend, who moved 2000 miles across the United 
States to escape a stalker, altered his name, and ended all contact with 
family and friends.  He was found, without a planning application.  He and 
his wife ended up moving to another state and may have even moved back to 
his wife's country in a bid to escape.  His stalker was not helped by a 
tyrannical regime.

Is the dissident in question on the electoral register?

My point is that publicising or making public certain information is not 
inherently problematic.  Two things need to be considered and 
disentangled.  First, should the names of objectors be known? I argue that 
yes they should be public.  Second, should the name and address of the 
applicants be made public? I argue that yes they should.  However, both 
can be made public in limited ways.  As I mentioned earlier, the names and 
addresses can be attached to a planning application without being a search 
field.  Therefore, if I am interested in the application, I live nearby, I 
can search by address without needing to know the name.  This would solve 
the problem of the dissident. Unless of course, his address is already 
known, and in that case the point is moot.   My point concerning the 
objectors is that data protection issues become moot if we cannot assure 
physical safety. The reference to retail sanity and wholesale madness 
comes to mind.

As it is Friday, I wish all who have read this far a pleasant and 
enjoyable weekend.

Best 

Lawrence Serewicz


Lawrence W. Serewicz
Scrutiny Manager
Management Support Unit
Wear Valley District Council
01388-761-985




[log in to unmask]
Sent by: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues 
<[log in to unmask]>
02/06/2005 20:09
Please respond to KITLegal

 
        To:     [log in to unmask]
        cc: 
        Subject:        Re: [data-protection] Opinions sought - Planning Applications


In a message dated 02/06/05 15:06:26 GMT Daylight Time, 
[log in to unmask] writes (snip):

>  I think the risks are small, and the benefits could be large. 

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Then consider this.  I know a man who was granted asylum in this country 
and 
is still being sought by the regime he ran from.  If he wants to extend 
his 
house, have it adapted for disabled access, or change the use for whatever 

reason, he runs a risk of being found if his details are published 
worldwide.  He 
has committed no crime, he was just "on the wrong side".  Can he never be 
allowed a right to improve his home?  He cannot lie on the form about who 
he is, he 
cannot remain anonymous, he doesn't mind his neighbours knowing about his 
application because they know little of his background.  How is the 
Internet 
different from a local planning process?  That's how.  People running from 
violent 
marriages, people being stalked, and others should be given a right to get 
on 
with their lives without the "small risk" as you call it, due to some 
ill-conceived operation of convenience.

A local system could still exist using the Internet.  Register all 
relevant 
persons and issue a PIN or other identifier.  Using the PIN, the people 
who 
need to know about planning applications in their area can do so.  People 
from 
outside the area who just want names and addresses for junk mailing, 
scamming or 
other nefarious purposes, can get nothing.  E-government targets are met, 
personal data is protected and the right to a private life (Art 8 ECHR) is 

maintained.

Ian B


Ian Buckland
Managing Director
Keep IT Legal Ltd

Please Note: The information given above does not replace or negate the 
need 
for proper legal advice and/or representation. It is essential that you do 
not 
rely upon any advice given without contacting your solicitor.  If you need 

further explanation of any points raised please contact Keep I.T. Legal 
Ltd at 
the address below:

55 Curbar Curve
Inkersall, Chesterfield
Derbyshire  S43 3HP 
(Reg 3822335)
Tel: 01246 473999 
Fax: 01246 470742
E-mail: [log in to unmask]
Website: www.keepitlegal.co.uk

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