Perhaps I am being overly bleak about this, but I am saddened to think
that most people live in fear of reprisal. Do we have to walk around, as
citizens having to consider whether anything we say or do will result in
"consequences"? Is it any wonder that the Government has to make
democratic renewal a centrepiece of its 10-year vision for local
government? I am saddened to think that people can only prevent crime by
"not bringing upon themselves." Perhaps these are isolated incidents, but
if the need to remain anonymous is so widespread and so well entrenched,
then society is ruled fear or violence or reprisal rather than the law.
Building or modifying a home, whether we like it or not, is a public act.
As a public act, the public has a right to comment on that act through the
planning process. Would the public accept such intimidation if instead of
a planning application we were talking about an election?
I do not think that Councils have a legal obligation to inform people
overseas. The legal question was not about accessibility. The legal
question is whether people's names and address should be affixed to the
planning process. I do recall that in the days before the internet
Councils did distribute information to various outlets. For example,
there are public notices placed in newspapers and journals. How is this
different from the internet? The issue is not technology; the issue is
making information free and accessible.
My point about someone living in America was that the Chinese-American
might not travel back to China on a regular basis. If for example, he or
she has two addresses, are they going to get all of their mail forwarded
overseas? Perhaps they need to hire an attorney to manage their affairs
to make sure that someone does not build while they are away. What
happens if I live in a rural area, with poor bus services, and cannot get
to the town hall on a regular basis? Even after a citizen is informed by
the Council, that building will be taking place; they will still need to
go into town to view the planning application. Unless, they contact the
council and have the council send them a copy of the planning application.
I would think that the quality of buildings in the UK is not related to
the planning process, but to building and planning regulations passed by
government.
Finally, if someone makes an objection it is up to the Council, through
its Members or the Officer, through delegated powers, to make the final
decision. In that regard, an objection's merit will be judged in the
abstract. If it is overruled, then the applicant should not have a worry.
If it is upheld, then the applicant should take it up with the Council
because the objection had some validity. In either case, the objector
should be free to make their voice heard on matters that concern them
secure in the knowledge that they will not be intimidated or suffer
adverse consequences. If the planning process, or rather local
government, cannot assure such security, what is the point to having a
planning application process?
Lawrence Serewicz
Lawrence W. Serewicz
Scrutiny Manager
Management Support Unit
Wear Valley District Council
01388-761-985
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Subject: [data-protection] Planning Applications
Some people prefer to remain anonymous to prevent such attacks rather than
try to get the police to sort it out after they suffer the injuries.
Prevention
is better than cure they say.
How did councils inform overseas owners about planning applications at
properties next door to their investment before the Internet was invented?
They
didn't. There is no legal obligation to do so. And quite frankly if you
stay
away from your property for so long that you don't see the planning notice
on
the lamp post outside it serves you right if someone builds a swimming
pool next
door.
Except most councils will do their best to inform affected owners
directly,
provided they have the person's details. There is no need to tell
everyone in
the whole world "just in case" they have an interest. Most countries,
including China, do not put their planning applications on the web so if
an American
does have a property there s/he will have to make local arrangements.
Ian B
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In a message dated 02/06/05 10:35:47 GMT Daylight Time,
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> I realise that I may be naive, but am I the only one who is concerned
that
> objectors fear for their safety? I realise that disputes between
> neighbours can become "problematic", but these are disputes. The parties
> know each other and each has equal access to the law to protect their
> interests, including personal safety.
>
> If an objector needs to remain anonymous because they fear consequences,
> what does this tell us about the state of law enforcement and the
ability
> to act freely and equally in society? Again, I may be naive, but this
also
> suggests that democracy, the open debate of issues and the due process
of
> the law, are weaker on the ground than we imagine. When witnesses and
> objectors can be intimidated, where is the law? Such behaviour suggests
> that might makes right or in the words of Thucydides "The strong do as
> they will, the weak do as they must. "
>
> How can we talk of "data protection" when we cannot even assure
"physical
> protection"?
>
> My view is that the information should be public, on the web, so that
both
> sides of an issue can know where they stand. If I cannot put my name to
> an objection, then why am I objecting? If I cannot object without fear
of
> consequences, why do we have a planning process?
>
> Yes, I may want to know about a swimming pool being built in China, if I
> live in the US and my property in China is next to the property
proposing
> the swimming pool. Do I have to make the 18 hour journey to the
planning
> office to read the document?
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