We so often agree, Charles. I regret this is one of those times when I
disagree with you.
It is not bad form to criticise anything perceived as not relevant to the
group as being not relevant. Otherwise we could have all sorts of "stuff"
here uncriticised.
That something is academic does not mean it is automatically grist to the
mill here. An "Academic study in the enhancement of male or female body
parts" however learned the source would not be appropriate.
It is not a matter of voting every time we do not like something. It is a
matter of keeping our list free from irrelevant stuff, "Friday banter"
excepted.
That "conferences are necessary for young academics" does not of itself
justify the posting of a conference here. Young academics also find it
necessary to wear clothes on most occasions, and we do not see clothing
adverts here.
The conference topic list is very broad indeed. While I think we all
appreciate that each topic can be interpreted to manage to include DP
matters, a properly targeted email would simply have obeyed our rules of
custom and practice and aimed us at their detailed agenda on their website.
This is a matter of poor marketing practice because it has no regard to the
recipients, and this is so whether or not the conference is designed or
intended to have a DP content.
Whatever Natalia Reis's position in the organisation she has not in the past
answered emails on this topic, and she is acting, should she be a real
person, as spokesperson of this organisation
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[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Charles Christacopoulos
Sent: 31 May 2005 17:53
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Subject: [data-protection] That conference. You are wrong to complain!
Hi to all,
I am sorry for not responding to a particular message and changing the
thread.
First, yes *perhaps* bad form from the organisers to inform/spam groups
about their conference. (The message will be spam to those who do not want
it but can be relevant information to others).
Second, bad form to criticise a conference as not being relevant to this
group.
Third. Before we get to it, it is not a matter of voting (every time we
don't like something).
The conference is relevant to this group (unless the conference itself is
comptele and total ****) because:
a. it is an academic community newsgroup hosted withing the academic network
ACADEMIC being the significant word here.
b. unlike other lists which have the word admin in them, this list does not
which means it can discuss matters in an academic as well as in an applied
manner (assuming that those outside think that academics are never
interested in applied matters and live in ivory towers).
c. conferences are a necessary step for young academics/researchers to get
their research careers going and for established academics to give a
*performance*.
d. The list DOES have academic members of staff who may be here because of a
genuine interest in DP or because they have to perform DP functions in their
jobs or ....
etc.
For the blinkered (or is it applied) persons who think such a message is not
relevant, here is a go at putting an academic helmet on.
> * Topics related to WWW/Internet are of interest. These include, but
> are not limited to the following areas:
**** Not limited!!! Not difficult to understand.
> - Accessibility
AKA in the UK as legislation. Relevant to anyone with an interest in
legislative web matters and DP is very much part ot such matters.
> - Adaptive Web Systems
> - Collaboration
> - Computer-Mediated Communication
> - Data Mining
> - Database Planning and Development
> - Digital Economy
> - Digital Libraries and E-Publishing
> - Distributed and Parallel Applications
> - E-Business and E-Commerce
> - E-Government
Relevant to DP. Throw ID cards in the pot too.
> - E-Learning
> - Electronic Data Interchange
Relevant to DP!
> - Quality, Evaluation and Assessment
Relevant to DP!
> - Extensible Languages
> - Global Tendencies in WWW/Internet
> - Groupware
Relevant to DP!
> - Human Computer Interaction
> - Hypermedia
> - Information Architectures
> - Information Visualization
> - Intelligent Agents
> - Interfaces
> - Internet & Customer Relationship Management
Combine with e-government. Relevant to DP!
> - Internet Payment Systems
Relevant to DP!
> - Internet Services
> - Languages
> - Metadata
> - Multimedia
> - Performance Issues
> - Personalized Web Sites and Services
> - Portal strategies
> - Protocols and Standards
> - Searching and Browsing
> - Security Issues
A little relevant to DP!!!!!!!
> - Semantic Web
> - Social & Legal Issues
Relevant to DP!
> - Storage Issues
> - System Integration
> - Teaching and Learning Strategies
> - Technology Innovation and Competitiveness
> - Technology Management
> - Technology Strategies
> - Tele-Work
Relevant to DP!!!!
> - WWW/Internet Applications
> - WWW/Internet Case studies
> - WWW/Internet Impacts
> - Web Engineering
> - Web Personalization
> - Web Software
> - Wireless Applications
> - Ubiquitous Computing
> - Usability
> - User Modelling
> - Virtual Communities
> - Virtual Reality
> - XML
Right? Clear enough? If you can't see the relevance of the above points to
DP don't bother asking me how I see it. Life is too short.
As far as Natalia Reis is concerned she is probably a secretary or a junior
administrator.
I said my bit.
Regards
Charles
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Charles Christacopoulos, Management Information Officer, Planning &
Information, University of Dundee, Dundee, DD1 4HN, Scotland, United
Kingdom. Tel: 44(0)1382-344891. Fax: 44(0)1382-348845.
http://www.somis.dundee.ac.uk/ ::egothor http://www.egothor.org/
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