JiscMail Logo
Email discussion lists for the UK Education and Research communities

Help for DATA-PROTECTION Archives


DATA-PROTECTION Archives

DATA-PROTECTION Archives


data-protection@JISCMAIL.AC.UK


View:

Message:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

By Topic:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

By Author:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

Font:

Proportional Font

LISTSERV Archives

LISTSERV Archives

DATA-PROTECTION Home

DATA-PROTECTION Home

DATA-PROTECTION  2005

DATA-PROTECTION 2005

Options

Subscribe or Unsubscribe

Subscribe or Unsubscribe

Log In

Log In

Get Password

Get Password

Subject:

Re: Identity Theft - Nightmare scenario

From:

Cliff Hoy <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Cliff Hoy <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Fri, 4 Mar 2005 15:20:29 -0000

Content-Type:

text/plain

Parts/Attachments:

Parts/Attachments

text/plain (476 lines)

And ultimately YOU foot the bill because the interest rates go up because
the credit card companies will still want their profit!

 

Cliff

 

This email and any files or attachments transmitted with it are confidential
and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they
are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify me by
return. This message may contain confidential or privileged information and
is intended only for the individual/s named. If you are not the named
addressee/s you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
Please notify me immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by
mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. If you are not the intended
recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking
any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly
prohibited.

 

WARNING: Computer viruses can be transmitted via email. The recipient should
check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. I accept
no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email.
E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as
information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or
incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept
liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which
arise as a result of an e-mail transmission.

 

The integrity and security of this message cannot be guaranteed on the
Internet. 

 

-------Original Message-----

--From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues

--[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Carter, Antoinette

--(KIS)

--Sent: 04 March 2005 14:46

--To: [log in to unmask]

--Subject: Re: [data-protection] Identity Theft - Nightmare scenario

--

--I have read all today's comments re: identity theft with great interest,

--but think that there are two main reasons why I really don't worry about

--being a victim of identity theft, or someone fraudulently using my

--credit cards etc. and they are:

--1. That "a fool and his money are easily parted" and there are so many

--fools in this world that do stupid things like tell any Tom, Dick or

--Harry that calls their house their bank details, that minor vigilance on

--my part is sufficient to deter people on to the next sucker instead.

--And,

--2.  That I know that ultimately it is the credit card companies who foot

--the bill for the fraudulent use of my card (as long as I have sticked to

--the T&Cs of use, and not been negligent) and not me.  I think all the

--scare-mongering in the press over identity theft is fanned by the huge

--financial institutions whose profits are under attack, but who are

--unwilling or unable to instigate more stringent (and therefore less

--convenient) security procedures for fear of reducing Joe Public's

--reliance on their flexible friends, which would reduce the linings of

--their pockets.

--Friday rant over........

--

--

-------Original Message-----

--From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues

--[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Talbot Richard

--Sent: 04 March 2005 14:21

--To: [log in to unmask]

--Subject: Re: [data-protection] Identity Theft - Nightmare scenario

--

--It's so easy to collect this information from people, for example those

--nice

--direct debit blaggers that hang around the streets and work for a

--different

--charity each day. We all assume they work for a recognised charity and

--not

--for themselves. Well on the street you give them your bank details and

--home

--address, your date of birth and I have been told they also ask for you

--credit card details just in case the bank refuses the direct debit.

--

--

--Richard Talbot

--Data Protection Adviser

--

--

-------Original Message-----

--From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues

--[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Tim Trent

--Sent: 04 March 2005 08:10

--To: [log in to unmask]

--Subject: [data-protection] Identity Theft - Nightmare scenario

--

--Now I know Identity Theft is fats becoming a media buzzword.  I saw the

--survey that says that one in four of us "Has had their identity stolen"

--or

--"Knows someone who has had theirs stolen".  I laughed at the second

--element

--because I thought it was like the people who know someone who knew the

--person who microwaved her poodle to dry it after a walk.  I think I have

--joined that one in four.  A few things conspired to make me think it may

--well be much more serious that the TV programmes have shown us

--

--TV last night showed a programme on traffic wardens and their "secure"

--disposal of credit card details in a wheelie bin that often overflowed.

--The

--news item about "one in four of us" germinated and sprouted.  And I was

--contacted by someone who had been arrested because his credit card

--details

--appeared in 2003 on a Danish web site that touted illegal and deeply

--unpleasant imagery and was scared witless because he had never been

--there,

--but had, not unreasonably, had his home entered and a great deal of

--potential evidence seized for examination.  I am not going into the

--morals

--here.  He is either guilty or innocent.

--

--But it struck me forcibly how easy it is for someone to do this to

--someone

--else.  To anyone else.  For me to do to you or you to do to me.

--

--To do it to you I just have to visit that wheelie bin and get your card

--number and name (and I have your address because it's there, on the

--paperwork), the expiry date and that three digit number that I am told

--is

--intended for web transactions but that every phone based business

--records as

--well.  Then I look for the material I want, probably by cruising in a

--car

--with a laptop until I find an insecure wireless network to log in

--through,

--which will make the IP address a random person's.  It could even be

--yours at

--home.  Then I put your credit card details into

--"averynastyplaceindeed.com"

--(it didn't exist this morning, but I bet someone registers it by this

--afternoon) and download the stuff that the police will later arrest you

--for.

--

--It may never appear on your credit card statement, either.  There may

--actually be no charge (yeah, right!).  But, if it does, it will slip

--under

--your radar because the sum will be named something innocuous.

--

--A reasonable question here, and I expect we have a financial institution

--or

--so on this list to help answer it, is how can the ordinary person know

--that

--this has happened (until the 6am knock on the door, of course.  I

--understand

--one notices that in a highly stressful manner), how can they protect

--themselves from it, and most importantly, how can they defend themselves

--against it?

--

--

--

--Tim Trent - Consultant

--Direct: +44(0)1344 392644 Mobile:+44(0)7710 126618

--email: [log in to unmask]

--<blocked::mailto:[log in to unmask]>

--Marketing Improvement Limited, Abbey House, Grenville Place, Bracknell,

--United Kingdom, RG12 1BP <blocked::http://www.marketingimprovement.com/>

--http://www.marketingimprovement.com

--

--

--

--This message is for the intended addressee's use only. It may contain

--confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. No

--confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mis-transmission.

--If

--you receive this message in error, please immediately delete it and all

--copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify

--the

--sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute,

--print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended

--recipient. Any views expressed in this message are those of the

--individual

--sender, except where the message states otherwise and the sender is

--authorised to state them to be the views of any such entity.

--

--

--^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

--       All archives of messages are stored permanently and are

--      available to the world wide web community at large at

--      http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/data-protection.html

--      If you wish to leave this list please send the command

--       leave data-protection to [log in to unmask]

--            All user commands can be found at : -

--        http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/help/commandref.htm

--Any queries about sending or receiving message please send to the list

--owner

--              [log in to unmask]

--  (all commands go to [log in to unmask] not the list please)

--   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

--

--The Information contained in this E-Mail and any subsequent

--correspondence

--is private and is intended solely for the intended recipient(s).

--For those other than the recipient any disclosure, copying,

--distribution,

--or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on such

--information

--is prohibited and may be unlawful.

--

--Emails and other electronic communication with QinetiQ may be monitored.

--Calls to QinetiQ may be recorded for quality control,

--regulatory and monitoring purposes.

--

--^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

--       All archives of messages are stored permanently and are

--      available to the world wide web community at large at

--      http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/data-protection.html

--      If you wish to leave this list please send the command

--       leave data-protection to [log in to unmask]

--            All user commands can be found at : -

--        http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/help/commandref.htm

--Any queries about sending or receiving message please send to the list

--owner

--              [log in to unmask]

--  (all commands go to [log in to unmask] not the list please)

--   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

--

--^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

--       All archives of messages are stored permanently and are

--      available to the world wide web community at large at

--      http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/data-protection.html

--      If you wish to leave this list please send the command

--       leave data-protection to [log in to unmask]

--            All user commands can be found at : -

--        http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/help/commandref.htm

--Any queries about sending or receiving message please send to the list

--owner

--              [log in to unmask]

--  (all commands go to [log in to unmask] not the list please)

--   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

--

--

----

--No virus found in this incoming message.

--Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.

--Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.0 - Release Date: 02/03/2005

--


-- 
This message was scanned for Virus infections upon leaving the host computer
and found to be clean.
Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.0 - Release Date: 02/03/2005
 

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
       All archives of messages are stored permanently and are
      available to the world wide web community at large at
      http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/data-protection.html
      If you wish to leave this list please send the command
       leave data-protection to [log in to unmask]
            All user commands can be found at : -
        http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/help/commandref.htm
Any queries about sending or receiving message please send to the list owner
              [log in to unmask]
  (all commands go to [log in to unmask] not the list please)
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Top of Message | Previous Page | Permalink

JiscMail Tools


RSS Feeds and Sharing


Advanced Options


Archives

April 2024
March 2024
February 2024
January 2024
December 2023
November 2023
October 2023
September 2023
August 2023
July 2023
June 2023
May 2023
April 2023
March 2023
February 2023
January 2023
December 2022
November 2022
October 2022
September 2022
August 2022
July 2022
June 2022
May 2022
April 2022
March 2022
February 2022
January 2022
December 2021
November 2021
October 2021
September 2021
August 2021
July 2021
June 2021
May 2021
April 2021
March 2021
February 2021
January 2021
December 2020
November 2020
October 2020
September 2020
August 2020
July 2020
June 2020
May 2020
April 2020
March 2020
February 2020
January 2020
December 2019
November 2019
October 2019
September 2019
August 2019
July 2019
June 2019
May 2019
April 2019
March 2019
February 2019
January 2019
December 2018
November 2018
October 2018
September 2018
August 2018
July 2018
June 2018
May 2018
April 2018
March 2018
February 2018
January 2018
December 2017
November 2017
October 2017
September 2017
August 2017
July 2017
June 2017
May 2017
April 2017
March 2017
February 2017
January 2017
December 2016
November 2016
October 2016
September 2016
August 2016
July 2016
June 2016
May 2016
April 2016
March 2016
February 2016
January 2016
December 2015
November 2015
October 2015
September 2015
August 2015
July 2015
June 2015
May 2015
April 2015
March 2015
February 2015
January 2015
December 2014
November 2014
October 2014
September 2014
August 2014
July 2014
June 2014
May 2014
April 2014
March 2014
February 2014
January 2014
December 2013
November 2013
October 2013
September 2013
August 2013
July 2013
June 2013
May 2013
April 2013
March 2013
February 2013
January 2013
December 2012
November 2012
October 2012
September 2012
August 2012
July 2012
June 2012
May 2012
April 2012
March 2012
February 2012
January 2012
December 2011
November 2011
October 2011
September 2011
August 2011
July 2011
June 2011
May 2011
April 2011
March 2011
February 2011
January 2011
December 2010
November 2010
October 2010
September 2010
August 2010
July 2010
June 2010
May 2010
April 2010
March 2010
February 2010
January 2010
December 2009
November 2009
October 2009
September 2009
August 2009
July 2009
June 2009
May 2009
April 2009
March 2009
February 2009
January 2009
December 2008
November 2008
October 2008
September 2008
August 2008
July 2008
June 2008
May 2008
April 2008
March 2008
February 2008
January 2008
December 2007
November 2007
October 2007
September 2007
August 2007
July 2007
June 2007
May 2007
April 2007
March 2007
February 2007
January 2007
2006
2005
2004
2003
2002
2001
2000
1999
1998


JiscMail is a Jisc service.

View our service policies at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/policyandsecurity/ and Jisc's privacy policy at https://www.jisc.ac.uk/website/privacy-notice

For help and support help@jisc.ac.uk

Secured by F-Secure Anti-Virus CataList Email List Search Powered by the LISTSERV Email List Manager