Thanks for the clarification. I defer to your greater knowledge.
I am still left with the practical problem of helping people to decide on
the content of their fair processing notices and what kind of choice to
offer their Data Subjects. In many cases it makes a big difference whether
by ticking the box people accept or prevent a particular outcome, because
the 'don't care/don't mind' majority won't tick the box either way. If it
says "tick here to receive ..." the resulting list will be much smaller than
if it says "tick here not to receive ...", for example. Even if there is no
logical difference between the two, it is a serious practical issue, for
which a sensible, agreed terminology would be very helpful.
However, on the question that started this thread, no one has come up with
any recent or imminent change in the rules (whether legislative or in the
Commissioner's approach), so I've concluded that my informants have
misunderstood something.
Paul Ticher
0116 273 8191
22 Stoughton Drive North, Leicester LE5 5UB
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for direct marketing purposes.
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From: "Roland Perry" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 9:33 PM
Subject: Re: Marketing to be opt-in?
> In message <003d01c5c5db$c7894920$0300a8c0@piii>, at 17:26:58 on Fri, 30
> Sep 2005, Paul Ticher <[log in to unmask]> writes
> >I agree that the terminology is confusing. I don't see why an opt out
has
> >to be only via a central register.
>
> Because that's the jargon used by the people who write (and lobby and
> enforce) Directives and similar regulations.
>
> >On a paper form or web site, an opt out
> >is offered through a statement such as: "We will do this unless you tick
the
> >box to tell us not to." An opt in would be: "Please tick the box if you
> >would like us to ..."
>
> No, no, no!
>
> They are merely offering you a preselected opt-in (which can be in
> either the negative or affirmative). Your choice to accept the
> preselection, or not.
>
> Opt-out is by putting your name on a global central register (think TPS,
> MPS etc)
>
> Jargon is jargon. We must be consistent. Some might wish to name the
> various activities "opt-in", "[Individual] opt-out" and "Global opt-out"
> (or whatever). But that's not what's happened. We only have opt-in and
> opt-out; or if you really want to put names to the three choices,
> something like: "accepted opt-in", "refused opt-in" and opt-out".
> --
> Roland Perry
>
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