I haven't been round that long - well I did have some DPA training awareness
in 1984 - but I didn't have responsibility for that area and indeed I worked
on surveys where the data is anonymised and there have long been rules about
the level of analysis.
What differences are there which would give more effect to the 1998 Act.
Nick Landau
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> Whilst the 1984 Act has been around for a while, the 1998 is significant
> in
> the extra power it potentially gives the public. I therefore think it's a
> "grower", and I tend to discount 84 - 98 for that reason.
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> I can't see DP being taken more seriously. I have been doing this job
> for about 8 years now - it came into being in 1984, so here we are 20+
> years on. I have had in total about 10 Subject Access requests in all
> that time. I was therefore driven into a false sense of security when
> FoI came into being and thought it would probably die a quick death but
> lo and behold it has grown arms and legs and am having difficulty
> keeping up....
> Doreen Broom
> Access to Information Officer
> Scottish Borders Council
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> For me it's more than just notfication (which they should do away with,
> or get better at enforcing). It's the problem with attitude. Business
> will only do something when there is a pressure from somewhere - public,
> Parliament etc.
>
> You can do what you like to put forward why taking Information Privacy
> seriously has business benefits, but there is obvious cost involved, and
> unless there is a driver sufficient to get the car started (forgive the
> analogy), it won't happen.
>
> Think back to the Health & Safety Act, it came about 20+ years ago but
> it's only in the past 8 years or so that it has really started to be
> taken seriously by most businesses. I think that the DPA is potentially
> the same, it will take a while for the momentum to build up and then it
> will become all pervading (maybe).
>
> However in the meantime us evangelists are trying to preach the gospel
> to a heathen community! Fortunately there are plenty of businesses out
> there who are willing to move forward, and they are the ones who will
> have a head start.
>
> Simon.
> -----Original Message-----
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> On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 04:00:57PM -0000, Simon Howarth (RGC) Interim
> Information Governance Manager wrote:
>> Unfortunately I get this response from some organisations. Most are
>> aware
> of
>> the need to notify, but it's very low on the prioity list when they
> realise
>> that the ICO has no teeth.
>
> You say it's unfortunate, but is it really?
>
> As has been mentioned here several times, it's really little more than
> yet another tax on having a business. What benefits are there for a
> small business to notify? Surely most only do it because they believe
> they have to?
>
> If there's no come back for those who don't, then why bother?
>
> (Of course I'm not saying that everyone shouldn't ahere to all the
> principles of data processing etc, this is just about notification)
>
> Tony
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