I have to agree with Susan here. The right to be forgotten is something that
I think has got out of hand.
I understand what Trish is saying, but the challenge is much more than
legacy systems it's ensuring that systems where being forgotten will cause
harm or distress are not affected. With ever increasing reliance on systems
that communicate with each other this is an ever more present possibility.
Couple that with the public actually understanding what the "right to be
forgotten" and managing these things will be more of a challenge that DPA
could ever be.
This is why the conference was so useful to hear points of view put forward
from different angles.
Simon Howarth MSc. MBCS CITP
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Speaking as an archivist who is also data protection officer for an archives
service, I have real concerns about the right to be forgotten (and the right
to have data corrected and completed) if applied to material no longer in
current use and being kept for historical research purposes, now or in the
future. As an archivist I want to ensure that records in our custody can be
relied upon as authentic evidence of the past, for the sake of future
research and for accountability purposes. I see that as a different matter
from being able to delete data from social networking sites and would like
to see a more nuanced approach.
Susan Healy
Information Policy Consultant and Data Protection Officer Tel +44 (0)20 8392
5330 ext 2305 The National Archives, Kew, Richmond, Surrey TW9 4DU
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This is my opinion, but I actually think as a masters in information that
the right to be forgotten could actually work in practice with today's
technology.
The challenge is applying these rules retrospectively in legacy systems
however, in my personal opinion together with my professional experience
although challenging in managing this aspect it does not necessarily mean
that it is an impossible task. Hence why i am bemused by the amount of
interest "right to be forgotten" is generating in the context of what we
can't do as opposed to focussing our energy on what we can do to accommodate
this in practice.
Please take this in the spirit it is meant and that is my opinion and not
fact because that of course has not yet been proven.
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Regards
Trish-louise Bailey. MSc
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Brunella,
This is pretty much what Prof. Dutton said!
So we are not alone in our thoughts...
Simon.
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Can I just add I did not attend these presentations and I do not want to
comment on the event - I am sure its quality was superb as many other
initiatives organised at Oxford Faculty of Law and other offices at Oxford
University that work closely with Bruxelles.
I want to say instead that the idea of a 'right to be forgotten' introduced
in the new european data protection regulation is one of the biggest 'non
sense' concepts I have ever heard in terms of information and data
management requirements, an unrealistic pretty much emotional popular and
uneducated way to approach a serious problem.
Somebody should explain how does it fit, for instance, with third parties
rights to reuse personal data.
As somebody else said elsewhere, it seems the European lobby and think thank
that adopted this oxford-endorsed creative notion of the 'right to be
forgotten' enjoyed playing a game on the subject.
I am pretty sure the right to be forgotten will be forgotten as pure non
sense, unrealistic and unresponsible way to push a sort of aunt sally game
into data protection legislation, to make its principles failing easier.
It may take some time, but in the - surely engineered - way to manage
personal data we are heading towards, I do not see such a notion prevailing.
Instead, it may be the case there is a right to remember and be remembered
right - that includes deleting what is not proportionate, appropriate,
useful or true.
Brunella Longo
Information Management Adviser
http://www.brunellalongo.co.uk
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