Dear all
My apologies to all those who gave their advice re DSA funding
psychotherapy sessions. It turns out that this student wasn't getting
these funded by DSA after all - she was originally getting them
privately but then transferred over to the NHS.
This information was given to me while our systems were down, and the
student clearly got matters mixed up. Once I regained access to my
files, a quick call to the student's GP cleared things up. She told me
she will refer the student for as many more psychotherapy sessions as
are required. Great news.
So no precedent here then! Thanks to you all for your comments, however
- it's very educational and much appreciated.
Roddy
On 09/02/2011 17:43, Peter Quinn wrote:
> Although erroneously awarded Roddy might get some mileage (assuming they don't retract the support) from the flexibility in DSA where you can ask for extra weeks of support when not studying.
>
> I asked Michelle Wickenden, SFEs helpful E&D person, about this type of thing at the Birmingham SFE roadshow a while back.
>
> She said that you can apply for additional weeks of support and I got the impression you might use this so a student with a mental health difficulty can have the opportunity to return 'up and running' from an intermission.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> Pete Quinn
> DAS
> University of Oxford
>
> Original Message-----
> From: Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff. [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Simon Jarvis
> Sent: 09 February 2011 12:52
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Funding problem
>
> I think the salient point is that the DSA cannot be used for
> 'treatment', whether that be physiotherapy, psychotherapy or
> counselling. The DSA regulations are clear and unambiguous about this.
> In any case, if Rory's student is not studying at the moment the whole
> point about getting funding through the DSA is moot.
>
> As Ian suggests, if there is a lengthy wait for psychotherapy on the NHS
> perhaps there is an advice and counselling department either at St
> Georges or via a partner institution that can help?
>
> Simon
>
> Charmaine wrote:
>> It was psychotherapy, not physiotherapy costs that 'got through'. I
>> would still like to know from Roddy what the mechanism for this was:
>> since there is now a precedent, there may be some leverage for
>> recommending DSA-funded counselling to other students when they are
>> on-course. Moreover, counselling/psychotherapy may not necesssarily
>> equate with a 'medical' intervention: some Cognitive-Behavioural
>> interventions are very similar to mentoring, and do not use a medical
>> model.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon Morris"
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>> To:<[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 12:14 PM
>> Subject: Re: Funding problem
>>
>>
>>> As Ian pointed out Charmaine, the DSA component is for Non Medical
>>> Helpers, so I really don't think this can be used. I have no idea how
>>> Physio costs got through. If the argument was so strong for it
>>> however, I can't see why the same argument could not be used to get
>>> this support for the student through the NHS.
>>>
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>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff.
>>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Charmaine
>>> Sent: 09 February 2011 12:02
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Subject: Re: Funding problem
>>>
>>> Hi everybody.
>>> I didn't realise that the DSA could be used to fund psychotherapy. I
>>> work
>>> with a number of students with SpLDs who have severe study anxiety:
>>> would
>>> they be able to have psychotherapy or counselling sessions funded for
>>> them?
>>> What criteria would a DSA assessor use to recommend psychotherapy or
>>> counselling? In what circumstances do you think that funding bodies
>>> would
>>> fund this? What evidence would be necessary? I would appreciate your
>>> opinions.
>>> Best wishes,
>>> Charmaine
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon Jarvis"<[log in to unmask]>
>>> To:<>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 11:01 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Funding problem
>>>
>>>
>>> If she needs it as much as you say, why can't she get it on the NHS?
>>>
>>> Simon
>>>
> Pete
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