Hi
I thought we did this a couple of years ago when the issue first raised
its head. As I recall, the response of the person concerned was to set
up his own list, where he could moderate feedback. I'm sure he is still
a member of this list - but he has not posted for many months.
Cheers
Peter
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IanF wrote:
> Why don't you ask the people who advised that this 10 hour rule should
> be adopted to explain their reasoning and motivations for doing this,
> and how they can justify it under the terms of the legislative
> framework? Maybe this would help get to the bottom of this matter once
> and for all. It didn't just appear out of thin air.
>
> Ian Francis
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pauline Sumner" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 1:48 PM
> Subject: Re: Needs Assessments and the 10 hour rule
>
>
>> I find this so strange that we are trying very hard to provide a
>> professional service for our students, yet still we are asking the same
>> questions for which we are no clearer about answers!!
>> Pauline
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff.
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Alice Kemble-Davies
>> Sent: 05 February 2009 13:37
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: FW: Needs Assessments and the 10 hour rule
>>
>> Sorry, I should clarify that question further in light of the responses.
>> If
>> an HE is providing support in anticipation of DSA, usually 10 weeks will
>> have
>> passed before the process is complete. Will funding authorities
>> therefore
>> accept applications for 1-1 extensions prior to getting the needs
>> assessment?
>>
>> Thanks again,
>> Alice
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Alice Kemble-Davies
>> Sent: 05 February 2009 13:31
>> To: 'Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff.'
>> Subject: RE: Needs Assessments and the 10 hour rule
>>
>> Going back to Peter's original query about the dilemma of HE's providing
>> support in anticipation of DSA being approved, and the limitations now
>> presented in this context by the 10 hour rule - can anyone shed any
>> light?
>>
>> Many thanks,
>>
>> Alice
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff.
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of James Palfreman-Kay
>> Sent: 05 February 2009 11:57
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: Needs Assessments and the 10 hour rule
>>
>> Thanks John for below. Could you provide a bit more information about
>> the
>> letter you have mentioned below?
>>
>> Many thanks
>>
>> James
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff.
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of John Conway
>> Sent: 05 February 2009 10:03
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: Needs Assessments and the 10 hour rule
>>
>> as Chris Dunlop is a member of this email forum and has signed a letter
>> explaining the procedure, perhaps he might circulate it and explain its
>> meaning to us all??? we really must have an end to rumours and
>> confusion,
>> PLEASE!
>>
>> Dr John S Conway BSc PhD FGS FRGS FHEA MNADP
>> Director, MSc International Rural Development
>> Director, BSc Countryside Management
>> Chair, Research Committee
>> Principal Lecturer : Soil & Earth Science
>> Disability Officer
>> Royal Agricultural College,
>> Cirencester, Glos GL7 6JS
>> tel 01285 652531 fax 01285 650219
>>
>> ________________________________
>>
>> From: Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff. on
>> behalf of Claire Wickham
>> Sent: Thu 05/02/2009 09:46
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: Needs Assessments and the 10 hour rule
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes...exactly Ros: we need to send off such a request and have so far
>> been
>> unable to obtain clarification of the procedure and to whom the
>> eventual
>> decision will be communciated. If anyone has solved this I'd love to
>> know the
>> answer.
>>
>> with thanks,
>>
>> Claire
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff. on
>> behalf of Ros Lehany
>> Sent: Wed 04/02/2009 17:01
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: Needs Assessments and the 10 hour rule
>>
>> It's my understanding from several sources, including Elaine Urquhart,
>> that there is no limit to how many hours can be recommended by a Needs
>> Assessor but that only 10 hours will be granted initially. Extra hours
>> will need to be requested at a later date (and in this case it could be
>> immediately ) and will need to be backed up by written evidence of need.
>> In the future this evidence is likely to be a standardised ILP.
>>
>> What isn't clear, and what I am trying to find out, is where this
>> request goes. To SLC/LA or back to the Needs Assessor?
>>
>> Ros
>>
>> Ros Lehany
>> Chair- Association of Dyslexia Specialists in Higher Education
>>
>> email: [log in to unmask]
>> Work: 0113 2193038
>> Mobile: 0779 149 4690
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff.
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Peter Hill
>> Sent: 03 February 2009 16:49
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Needs Assessments and the 10 hour rule
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> I'm running into some difficulty with one of the HEIs whose students I
>> do Needs Assessments for. The disability service there is particularly
>> supportive and proactive. As a result, they often provide 1-1 dyslexia
>> support on faith - before the student has gone through the DSA process.
>> Consequently, I am assessing students who have already received well
>> over 10 hours of support in the current academic year.
>>
>> I suppose I could recommend 10 hours - plus whatever has been provided
>> already. That could be quite messy though, as I could not reliably
>> quantify what has been provided, as I do not know how long it will be
>> before the awards officer agrees things (or not, as the case may be).
>> Hope that makes sense!
>>
>> I'm coming under some pressure from the HEI and urgently need to resolve
>> this.
>>
>> Any thoughts and advice would be much appreciated.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Peter
>>
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