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Re: qualifications for psychologists

From:

Jeff Hughes <[log in to unmask]>

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Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff.

Date:

Sat, 9 Aug 2008 14:49:35 +0100

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The AEP does not issue practice certificates.

However, continued membership depends on continuing qualification as an EP
as described in my earlier posting.

An interesting aside to this is that LAs can employ EPs who are neither
members of BPsS nor AEP yet do have appropriate qualifications.

Would they refuse their own employee's report???

I am not convinced that the EP training courses do specifically train to
the working party report.

More will be clearer next year (or when every the HPC gets into gear....)

Jeff


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> Dear Julia, 
>   
> The DIUS guidance gives the BPS as one example of a professional association,
 
> not the sole qualifying body.  
>   
> http://www.dcsf.gov.uk/studentsupport/dsa__1.shtml 
>   
> DSA specific learning difficulties group (dyslexia, dyspraxia, dyscalculia
and  
> AD(H)D) 
 
> <http://www.dcsf.gov.uk/studentsupport/www.sasc.org.uk>  
 
> ... 
 
> The success of the new framework recommended in the report relies heavily on  
> the support of local authorities who are strongly encouraged to adopt the  
> recommendations. The following schedule shows dates for introducing specific  
> parts of the framework described in the report’s recommendations. 
 
>   
 
> Diagnostic assessments carried out before September 2006 
 
> ·        Local authorities to accept diagnostic assessments carried out by  
> psychologists and suitably qualified specialist teachers. Specialist teachers
 
> who assess dyslexia should hold AMBDA (Associate Membership of the British  
> Dyslexia Association) or a qualification from an advanced training course
which  
> assesses adults for dyslexia and is recognised by the British Dyslexia  
> Association’s Accreditation Board. 
 
> Diagnostic assessments carried out between September 2006 and August 2007 
 
> ·        Local authorities to accept diagnostic assessments carried out by  
> psychologists and suitably qualified specialist teachers as above. 
 
> ·        Diagnostic reports to be in the format recommended in the SpLDs  
> Working Group’s report. 
 
> ·        Diagnostic reports to use tests recommended in the SpLDs Working  
> Group’s guidelines or added by the SpLD Test Evaluation Committee (STEC). 
 
> Diagnostic assessments carried out between September 2007 and August 2008 
 
> ·        Local authorities to accept diagnostic reports from psychologists
and  
> specialist teachers. Specialist teachers must hold a current practising  
> certificate in assessing specific learning difficulties issued by their  
> relevant professional association (for example, the Professional Association
of  
> Teachers of Students with Specific Learning Difficulties (PATOSS) or Dyslexia
 
> Action). Psychologists must hold a current practising certificate issued by  
> their relevant professional association (for example, the British
Psychological  
> Society). 
 
> ·        Diagnostic reports to be in the report format recommended in the  
> SpLDs Working Group’s guidelines. 
 
> ·        Diagnostic reports to use tests recommended in the SpLDs Working  
> Group’s guidelines or added by the SpLD Test Evaluation Committee (STEC). 
 
> Diagnostic assessments carried out from September 2008 
 
> ·        Procedures as from September 2007 above plus the following. 
 
> ·        All training for assessing specific learning difficulties to  
> incorporate the SpLDs Working Group’s guidelines. 
 
>   
 
>   
>   
 
> 	-----Original Message-----  
> 	From: Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff. on
behalf  
> of Julia Tait  
> 	Sent: Wed 06/08/2008 11:44  
> 	To: [log in to unmask]  
> 	Cc:  
> 	Subject: Re: qualifications for psychologists 
> 	 
> 	 
> 	That's very helpful.  Thank you. 
> 	Julia 
> 	 
> 	Jeff Hughes wrote:  
 
> 		If the organisation referred to is the AEP (Association of Educational 
> 		Psychologists) which has its office in Durham then the be a member you have 
> 		to be fully qualified. 
> 		 
> 		That is a first degree in psychology and postgraduate qualifications in 
> 		Teaching and Educational Psychology. 
> 		 
> 		There are no EPs qualified by the new three years doctoral route yet. 
> 		 
> 		Sometimes this is stated as being "eligible" for british Psychological 
> 		Society (BPsS) Division of Educational and Child Psychology (DECP) 
> 		membership. 
> 		 
> 		However to join the AEP you do NOT have to be a member of the BPsS as well. 
> 		 
> 		 
> 		To have a practice certificate you have to be a member of the BPsS - 
> 		satisfying the same criteria as the AEP membership AND you must be a 
> 		Chartered Psychologist. 
> 		 
> 		Not all psychologists are members of the BPsS and not all who are members 
> 		of the BPsS are Chartered. 
> 		 
> 		It is NOT necessary to be in the BPsS to practice as a psychologist in the 
> 		UK nor is it necessary to be Chartered. 
> 		 
> 		Next year (or when they finally get round to it all psychologists who 
> 		practice WILL have to register with the Health Professions Council (HPC) 
> 		but once again it will not be necessary to be a member of the BPsS nor to 
> 		be Chartered - all BPsS Chartered Psychologists, DECP members and members 
> 		of the AEP will be entered automatically in the new register. (Similar 
> 		provisions are in place for other types of psychologists.) 
> 		 
> 		 
> 		I think you will have worked out that the psychologist concerned, if a 
> 		member of the AEP (never heard of the ABEP!), is well enough qualified to 
> 		do the assessment for this student. It follows that the person refusing to 
> 		accept the report would be wrong not the psychologist. 
> 		 
> 		I would suggest you ask the psychologist directly for their CV and ask them 
> 		to take the issue back to the decision maker! 
> 		 
> 		Jeff 
> 		 
> 		 
> 		 
> 		 
> 		   
> 		=========================================================== 
> 		Jeff Hughes   Chartered Information Technology Professional 
> 		Chartered Scientist      Chartered Educational Psychologist 
> 		Special Needs Computing     psychologist.co.uk    Box42 Ltd 
> 		E: [log in to unmask]  [log in to unmask]   W: www.box42.com  
> <http://www.box42.com/>  
> 		=========================================================== 
> 		   
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> 		Its Our Time .. Its Our Place .. Right NOW! 
> 		Its all happening here in Liverpool in 2008 
> 		Find out what you could do by clicking here 
> 		http://www.liverpool08.com/Events/index.asp 
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> 		 
> 		Disclaimer: 
> 		 
> 		This e-mail, and attachments, are intended for the named recipient(s). 
> 		All information contained here is privileged and confidential. 
> 		 
> 		If you receive this message in error, contact the sender immediately 
> 		and permanently delete the message and all address information. 
> 		 
> 		Do not keep, copy or share this information unless you are certain 
> 		you do so for legitimate reasons. Thank you for your co-operation. 
> 		 
> 		 
> 		>From computer at Box42 Ltd, St Helens. WA10 3BF  Tel: 08453 700 442 
> 		Reg Office: WA10 3BJ39 UK  Company No: 2904434  Vat: GB 643 7211 52  
> 		 
> 		 
> 		 
> 		 
> 		 
> 		   
 
> 			We have recently had a dyslexia assessment report submitted which was
carried 
> 			     
 
> 		  
> 		   
 
> 			out by an Educational Psychologist who does not hold a practising
certificate 
> 			     
 
> 		  
> 		   
 
> 			from BPS but he is a member of the Association of British Educational   
> 			Psychologists.   The LEA has turned down the report, leaving the severely 
 
> 			dyslexic student with no DSA, as the EP has no practising certificate in 
> 			     
 
> 		spite   
> 		   
 
> 			of the fact that the report is competent and uses the relevant tests, as   
> 			outlined in the working party guidelines.   The student paid 400 for the   
> 			assessment and is understandably not happy about the prospect of handing
out  
>   
> 			another 3-400.   Has anyone out there had a similar experience; what is
the   
> 			status of the ABEP and can you suggest any solutions?    
> 			     
 
> 		  
> 		   
 
> 			Thank you.     
> 			-- Julia Tait Adviser for Students with Dyslexia & Other Specific Learning
  
> 			Difficulties Student Services, Oxford Brookes University Helena Kennedy 
> 			     
 
> 		Student   
> 		   
 
> 			Centre, Headington Hill Campus Oxford OX3 0BP 01865 484659  
> 			     
 
> 		  
> 		 
> 		   
 
 
> 	--  
> 	Julia Tait 
> 	Adviser for Students with Dyslexia  
> 	& Other Specific Learning Difficulties 
> 	Student Services, 
> 	Oxford Brookes University 
> 	Helena Kennedy Student Centre, 
> 	Headington Hill Campus 
> 	Oxford OX3 0BP 
> 	 
> 	01865 484659 
 

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