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Subject:

Re: Deaf social work student

From:

"Bell, Gill" <[log in to unmask]>

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Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff.

Date:

Fri, 20 Feb 2004 14:11:03 -0000

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If the placement is paid it is my understanding (and that of my colleagues)
that the employer has a duty also, not just  the HEI, however if nothing
else i'm sure the Access to Work people can give advice on this.

-----Original Message-----
From: Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff.
[mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Benedict C Fell
Sent: 20 February 2004 13:58
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Deaf social work student


Cheers Gill

but do you think Access to Work only applies when the placement
is a paid one do you think? As social work placements are part
of the course, they are not paid placements,

Ben

On Fri, 20
Feb 2004 13:53:45 -0000 "Bell, Gill" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Yes that's right support should in the first instance come from DSA, but
> where that will clearly be exceeded (as it will in a work placement
> environment) it may be possible to look for help from Access to Work, at
> least that is the information we have been given in our area.
> Gill Bell
> Assessor
> Disability Services Unit
> Department of Student Services
> Tel: 01642 342285
> Textphone: 01642 342285
> Fax: 01642 342289
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff.
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Claire Wickham, Centre for
> Access and Communication Studies
> Sent: 20 February 2004 13:50
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Deaf social work student
>
>
> I'd agree with Paddy: if this placement is part of the course then support
> should, in the first instance, be form the DSA. If the student is not
> claiming the full DSA for interpreting and other access requirements then
> there should be a re-assessment to incorporate access requirements during
> the placement.
>
> ATB
>
> Claire
>
> --On 20 February 2004 13:32 +0000 "Turner, Paddy" <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> > I think it is unlikely that Access to Work will be available for this
> > kind of work placement as I don't believe it is a paid placement.
Support
> > should still be provided/co-ordinated from the University/HEI.
> >
> > My view is this.....I'm not sure where the ruling of 12hrs pr wk has
come
> > from, but in any event the duty to provide support under the DDA is not
> > entirely dependant on the availability of DSA. If the University were to
> > stop providing support they would have to justify that. It may be argued
> > that the extra cost is unreasonable but a few thousand set against an
> > overall HEI budget may not be considered as such.
> >
> > The student may get extra funding from the HEI's Hardship/Access Fund to
> > help fund some of it, but beyond that it is a question of whether the
HEI
> > is serious about providing access in the spirit of the law or is
prepared
> > to run the risk of being taken to court and a ruling/precedent set.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Paddy
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff.
> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Bell, Gill Sent: 20
> > February 2004 12:36
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: Deaf social work student
> >
> >
> > Ben
> > Access to work scheme can offer some help.  You can find out more on
> > www.jobcentreplus.gov.uk |
> >
> > Regards
> > Gill Bell
> > Assessor
> > University of Teesside
> > TS1 3BA
> > 01642 342285
> > Textphone: 01642 342285
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff.
> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Benedict C Fell Sent: 20
> > February 2004 11:04
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Deaf social work student
> >
> >
> > Dear List,
> >
> > wondered if anyone is able to offer any help/advice.
> >
> > I have been made aware of a deaf social work student at another HEI in
> > the UK whose main medium of communication is BSL.The HEI has been
> > informed that there is funding for 12 hours interpreting per week from
> > the DSA. This is fine when the teaching and learning is University
based.
> > However,as you may be aware, the new social work award stiplulates
> > students must undergo 200 days of pracice learning (placement)- when on
> > placement the numder of hours interpreting required per week will
> > probably exceed 12 hours depending on the nature of the placement.
> > However, the student should be offered the same range and variety of
> > placement choices as others.
> >
> > Does anyone have any
> > thoughts/comments/experience of this problem and can anyone suggest any
> > avenues to explore for more advice or additional funding?
> >
> > With many thanks in anticipation,
> >
> > Ben Fell
> > ----------------------------------------
> > Benedict C Fell
> > Research Assistant,
> > 67 Salmon Grove,
> > HUll HU6 7RX
> > Email: [log in to unmask]
> > University of Hull
> >
>
>
>
> ----------------------
> Claire Wickham,
> Director: Centre for Access and Communication Studies
> University of Bristol
> Union Building
> Queen's Road
> Clifton
> Bristol BS8 1LN
>
> Tel: 0117 954 5710/5705
> Textphone: 0117 954 5715
> Fax: 0117 954 5714
>
> [log in to unmask]

----------------------------------------
Benedict C Fell
Research Assistant,
67 Salmon Grove,
HUll HU6 7RX
Email: [log in to unmask]
University of Hull

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