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ok.com>, at 11:29:54 on Mon, 27 Jan 2020, Rhiannon Hood
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>Probably not a real issue. The real issue is the deep doo doo well all
>be clarting about in for flipping years trying to understand what “we”
>voted for(not me obv-I will always believe we would be better to be in
>a European collaborative institution- in fact I have ambitions for
>world peace but heh I’m a remoaning fool apparently)
>Silly me ?

[serious non-political suggestion towards the end]

It's clear that while a handful of people voted against the legitimate
philosophical premise of "ever greater federalism", most voted for a
mythical "cake and eat it" exit, and the flawed premise that unelected
bureaucrats in Westminster are either more benign or transparent (or
malleable by the public) than those in Brussels.

The tragedy is that once it was clear that cake-and-eat-it was
impossible, the former group made it politically impossible to go back
and ask the rest "now there's virtually no cake at all, would you rather
stay".

The difficulty for those of us trying to understand what this will all
look like once the dust has settled, is that there's still too many
decaying fragments of cake to tiptoe around. As well as high profile
statements like the Chancellor's "we will not be a rule-taker", let's
see how well *that* works with GDPR.

See also for example yesterday's report about the "just a soundbite"
Australian points-based immigration system, and despite lowering the
proxy-score of salary, to less than what a nurse earns, being obviously
essential to allow foreign nurses to still come to the UK, ministers are
saying "it's only an advisory report [from experts, and didn't we decide
we'd had enough of them, back in the day]".

Yes, people voted to get rid of Lithuanian crop-pickers (even though
they don't count as immigrants, on account of not staying more than 12
months), to be replaced by who, exactly; but didn't think about the
Portuguese nurses propping up the NHS[2].

Far from Bexit "getting done", at the moment, we are only a the start of
a long tunnel with no light at the end. And for at least six months[1]
there will be numerous special interest groups (of whom Data Protection
professionals are but one) who won't be any closer to understanding
whether their needs will be met, or whether they'll be thrown under the
bus (with slogans painted on the side, or otherwise).

I think it may be more productive to think about where we might end up,
rather than machinations of the journey. Moving from being an EU member,
to an island off the EU with pretend-membership for 11 months, to being
a fully fledged third country, we can look at how other third countries
deal with the Data Protection issues. There are several potential models
(not least aligned with wider trade deals): USA, India, Canada,
Norway...

Imagine your organisation was already in one of those places, what would
you have to do *today* to comply with both local law, and being able to
"do business with" r27.

[1] And that's only UK<->r27 negotiations, we have years of chlorinated
    chicken/Huawei/NHS discussions with third countries yet to come. One
    placebo is a "roll-over" deal, but that will assume our internal
    compliance with things like GDPR won't have changed.

[2] Much of Boris's "increased number of nurses" are actually "nurses we
    will persuaded= not to leave". Well, you know what nationalities to
    start with, don't you.
-- 
Roland Perry

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