As a comment, in an appeal against conviction for ATM fraud, the Court found that the ATM had been deceived by reason of the temporary storage of data, albeit only for a duration measured in very few microseconds. [The joys of the law. ;-) ]
M
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On 21 Jan 2013, at 09:49, Simon Howarth <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> " From the moment of entry until the ticket is printed AND the number is
> deleted from the ticket machine's memory, the VRN is PD by definition [I'll
> ignore confusion between singular and plural]."
>
> I would argue it is not, so long as it is not stored and then further
> matched. The definition in the DPA is that personal data "means data which
> relate to a living individual who can be identified (a) from those data or
> (b) from those data and other information which is in the possession of...
> blah blah".
>
> A reg. no. in a machine that does not store it is not personal as it is not
> stored to be used in any other way. Plus when matched it identifies the
> "registered keeper" not the owner nor the driver.
>
> The joys of the law.
>
> Simon Howarth MSc. MBCS CITP
>
>
>
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> Subject: Re: [data-protection] Vehicle Registration Numbers - Personal Data
> or not??
>
> Let us assume for the purposes of the following discussion that a VRN can
> constitute Personal Data (PD).
>
> From the moment of entry until the ticket is printed AND the number is
> deleted from the ticket machine's memory, the VRN is PD by definition [I'll
> ignore confusion between singular and plural].
>
> Exclusively as printed on the ticket, the VRN would appear not to be PD by
> definition.
>
> When the ticket is photographed by a CEO the VRN likely becomes PD by
> definition once again.
>
> So, for an offending vehicle, might the ticket be considered to be part of
> the 'processing' of the PD - e.g. as a temporary storage 'device'?
>
> M
>
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> On 21 Jan 2013, at 05:34, Paul Ticher <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> But let's consider the situation posited by Simon where the car
> registration is printed on the ticket but not recorded by the machine.
> Since the definition says that data is information which 'is being processed
> ...' the information would cease to be data once the machine spits the
> ticket out and erases its memory. The registration on the ticket wouldn't
> be data (or personal).
>>
>>
>> <SNIP>
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