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Re: DIS-FORUM Digest - 3 Nov 2011 to 4 Nov 2011 (#2011-216)

From:

"M.Hersh" <[log in to unmask]>

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Date:

Sat, 5 Nov 2011 20:39:15 +0000

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It would seem preferably, if at all possible, that the student knows and 
has had experience of working with the scribe and that the scribe has a 
minimal degree of subject specific knowedge, even if only from working 
with the students. In addition to reducing the student's anxietiy, the 
scribe will, for instance be able to write correctly any technical 
terms, set out mathematical equations or chemical formualae properly or 
follow any other subject-specific conventions. As has already been 
indicated, the exam will have to be invigilated.
Marion



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> There are 4 messages totaling 1225 lines in this issue.
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> Topics of the day:
>
>   1. Choice of scribe? (4)
>   
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>
> Subject:
> Choice of scribe?
> From:
> Charmaine McKissock <[log in to unmask]>
> Date:
> Fri, 4 Nov 2011 15:44:19 +0000
>
>
> Hello everybody – I know it’s Friday afternoon, but I have something on my mind…
>
>  
>
> Can you share your viewpoint/policy about the following:
>
>  
>
> ·         Is it ‘reasonable’ that a student should be able to choose his/her 
> scribe for an exam? For example, a student already has a note-taker during 
> lectures (who happens to also be a qualified scribe) and wishes for that person 
> to be their scribe – as opposed to a ‘stranger’ with whom they are not used to 
> working.
>
>  
>
> ·         Does your institution permit the use of a scribe/amanuensis, who may 
> also be familiar with the student’s chosen subject for study, for which he/she 
> is being examined?
>
>  
>
> ·         If the student employs the scribe as a note-taker or academic 
> assistant, would that person be considered a ‘subject-specialist’?
>
>  
>
> ·         What kind of practice before the exam does the student have with their 
> allocated scribe/amanuensis?
>
>  
>
> I guess this is going to vary from place to place, but I would be grateful to 
> read your views.
>
>  
>
> Best wishes to all,
>
> Charmaine  
>
>   
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject:
> Re: Choice of scribe?
> From:
> Penny Georgiou <[log in to unmask]>
> Date:
> Fri, 4 Nov 2011 16:31:52 +0000
>
>
> Dear Charmaine,
>
>  
>
> Ideally, students should have some practice sessions with a scribe beforehand, 
> in order to calibrate their ways of working and to avoid time consuming and 
> stressful misunderstanding within the examination.
>
>  
>
> Kind regards,
>
>  
>
> Penny
>
> *From:* Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff. 
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] *On Behalf Of *Charmaine McKissock
> *Sent:* 04 November 2011 15:44
> *To:* [log in to unmask]
> *Subject:* Choice of scribe?
>
>  
>
> Hello everybody – I know it’s Friday afternoon, but I have something on my mind…
>
>  
>
> Can you share your viewpoint/policy about the following:
>
>  
>
> ·         Is it ‘reasonable’ that a student should be able to choose his/her 
> scribe for an exam? For example, a student already has a note-taker during 
> lectures (who happens to also be a qualified scribe) and wishes for that person 
> to be their scribe – as opposed to a ‘stranger’ with whom they are not used to 
> working.
>
>  
>
> ·         Does your institution permit the use of a scribe/amanuensis, who may 
> also be familiar with the student’s chosen subject for study, for which he/she 
> is being examined?
>
>  
>
> ·         If the student employs the scribe as a note-taker or academic 
> assistant, would that person be considered a ‘subject-specialist’?
>
>  
>
> ·         What kind of practice before the exam does the student have with their 
> allocated scribe/amanuensis?
>
>  
>
> I guess this is going to vary from place to place, but I would be grateful to 
> read your views.
>
>  
>
> Best wishes to all,
>
> Charmaine  
>
>   
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject:
> Re: Choice of scribe?
> From:
> Simon Jarvis <[log in to unmask]>
> Date:
> Fri, 4 Nov 2011 16:34:47 +0000
>
>
> Hello Charmaine,
>
> I'm not sure that it is reasonable for a student to dictate who does their 
> scribing, but if the amanuensis does happen to be someone that they have worked 
> with already than it is imperative the exam is invigilated properly by someone 
> other than the scribe to safeguard the institution's academic standards and to 
> eliminate the chance that anyone could be accused of anything untoward.
>
> Our academic departments usually provide scribes from the postgraduate student 
> body, so that they have a background in the student's subject area.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Simon
>
>
> On 04/11/2011 15:44, Charmaine McKissock wrote:
> >
> > Hello everybody – I know it’s Friday afternoon, but I have something on my mind…
> >
> >  
> >
> > Can you share your viewpoint/policy about the following:
> >
> >  
> >
> > ·         Is it ‘reasonable’ that a student should be able to choose his/her 
> > scribe for an exam? For example, a student already has a note-taker during 
> > lectures (who happens to also be a qualified scribe) and wishes for that 
> > person to be their scribe – as opposed to a ‘stranger’ with whom they are not 
> > used to working.
> >
> >  
> >
> > ·         Does your institution permit the use of a scribe/amanuensis, who may 
> > also be familiar with the student’s chosen subject for study, for which he/she 
> > is being examined?
> >
> >  
> >
> > ·         If the student employs the scribe as a note-taker or academic 
> > assistant, would that person be considered a ‘subject-specialist’?
> >
> >  
> >
> > ·         What kind of practice before the exam does the student have with 
> > their allocated scribe/amanuensis?
> >
> >  
> >
> > I guess this is going to vary from place to place, but I would be grateful to 
> > read your views.
> >
> >  
> >
> > Best wishes to all,
> >
> > Charmaine  
> >
>
>
> -- 
> Simon Jarvis
> Head of Disability & Dyslexia Service
> Queen Mary University of London
>
> Student and Campus Services
> Room FB 2.30, Francis Bancroft
> Mile End Road, London E1 4NS
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> Mobile: 07500 825 597
> Fax: 020 7882 5223
> www.dds.qmul.ac.uk 
>
>   
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject:
> Re: Choice of scribe?
> From:
> Melanie Thorley <[log in to unmask]>
> Date:
> Fri, 4 Nov 2011 17:42:37 +0000
>
>
> hi charmiane
>  
> as a qualified scribe and researcher in this area - I agree with simon. anything 
> to reduce the anxiety of the student must be a good thing. the majority of 
> students I have come across in the past 14 of notetaking and furthering my own 
> knowledge much prefer working with one or two notetakers rather than a random 
> collection. an invigilator is imperative - to protect both the student and the 
> scribe and to ensure no naughtiness occurs
>  
> regards
> melanie
>  
> Melanie Thorley
> Association of Notetaking Professionals - Management Committee
>  
> Melanie Thorley
> *AccessAbility Project Co-ordinator
> Partnership Division
> University of Greenwich
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>  
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff. 
> [[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Simon Jarvis [[log in to unmask]]
> *Sent:* 04 November 2011 16:34
> *To:* [log in to unmask]
> *Subject:* Re: Choice of scribe?
>
> Hello Charmaine,
>
> I'm not sure that it is reasonable for a student to dictate who does their 
> scribing, but if the amanuensis does happen to be someone that they have worked 
> with already than it is imperative the exam is invigilated properly by someone 
> other than the scribe to safeguard the institution's academic standards and to 
> eliminate the chance that anyone could be accused of anything untoward.
>
> Our academic departments usually provide scribes from the postgraduate student 
> body, so that they have a background in the student's subject area.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Simon
>
>
> On 04/11/2011 15:44, Charmaine McKissock wrote:
> >
> > Hello everybody – I know it’s Friday afternoon, but I have something on my mind…
> >
> >  
> >
> > Can you share your viewpoint/policy about the following:
> >
> >  
> >
> > ·         Is it ‘reasonable’ that a student should be able to choose his/her 
> > scribe for an exam? For example, a student already has a note-taker during 
> > lectures (who happens to also be a qualified scribe) and wishes for that 
> > person to be their scribe – as opposed to a ‘stranger’ with whom they are not 
> > used to working.
> >
> >  
> >
> > ·         Does your institution permit the use of a scribe/amanuensis, who may 
> > also be familiar with the student’s chosen subject for study, for which he/she 
> > is being examined?
> >
> >  
> >
> > ·         If the student employs the scribe as a note-taker or academic 
> > assistant, would that person be considered a ‘subject-specialist’?
> >
> >  
> >
> > ·         What kind of practice before the exam does the student have with 
> > their allocated scribe/amanuensis?
> >
> >  
> >
> > I guess this is going to vary from place to place, but I would be grateful to 
> > read your views.
> >
> >  
> >
> > Best wishes to all,
> >
> > Charmaine  
> >
>
>
> -- 
> Simon Jarvis
> Head of Disability & Dyslexia Service
> Queen Mary University of London
>
> Student and Campus Services
> Room FB 2.30, Francis Bancroft
> Mile End Road, London E1 4NS
> Tel:  020 7882 2765
> Mobile: 07500 825 597
> Fax: 020 7882 5223
> www.dds.qmul.ac.uk 
>
>
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