I have to agree with Ian it seems amazing - I had another go Googling it all out of interest - Cubase can be used with Window-Eyes which is an alternative screen reader - not a great help to someone who is used to using JAWS, as this RFB&D (Learning Ally) article points out. http://www.learningally.org/Blog/Access-and-Achievement/144/vobId__2525/ It means there must be possibilities for making it accessible.
Best wishes E.A.
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Subject: Re: FW: JAWS and Cubase
Hi
I can't believe Cubase still isn't accessible to Jaws users, or imagine why it's beyond the wit of the Cubase development team to include accessibility features or expose data to screenreader developers. It's a shame that a blind student might have to use a relatively obscure package (Cakewalk) instead, just because it's the only thing accessible.
Maybe universities should let Cubase know that, until they make the package accessible to all users, they'll be using alternative products for all their students. It's a very competitive market out there these days and Cubase cannot rest on their laurels anymore.
it might be worth looking at Pro Tools accessibility using Mac OS screenreader functionality (although this is still fairly limited compared to a package like Jaws). At least it's a widely used package and it includes similar functionality to Cubase. There seems to be an active discussion group on Pro Tools accessibility at http://groups.google.com/group/ptaccess/topics
I found this page that gives a useful (if depressing) roundup of the current stage of play:
http://www.blindmusicstudent.org/facts_braille_tech.htm
I don't suppose any of this helps the student coming for an interview to start a course this year, though.
Good luck,
Ian Francis.
On 22/08/2011 16:17, Glenn Tookey wrote:
> Hi All
>
> I referred the question regarding Cubase directly to Freedom Scientific.
> The answer is below. It is fair to say that some software cannot be
> scripted, which is not a failing of JAWS, it is about the way in which
> the software in question has been developed and coded. A scripter can
> only navigate software that has been written in such a way that a
> cursor must be able to enter a field that can be recognised and verbalised.
> Many designer type software programmes have images or pictures with
> text labels in them which are intelligible by the sighted person but
> are just a graphic to JAWS and hence invisible. Many software
> companies will not give up design look and feel over accessibility as
> the number of VI users is very small. It is a shame, but it is a commercial fact of life.
> In these cases no screen reader will be able to read the software
> title in question.
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> Regards
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> Glenn
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> *From:*Eric Damery [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> *Sent:* 22 August 2011 16:03
> *To:* Glenn Tookey
> *Subject:* RE: JAWS and Cubase
>
> As far as I know, there are not scripts for it. Most people that are
> doing this use CakeWalk I think. There are certainly experienced users
> doing music editing out there who could suggest the best options.
> Dancing Dots is a company someone could ask.
>
> http://www.dancingdots.com/main/index.htm
>
> Regards,
>
> Eric
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> *From:*Glenn Tookey [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
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> *Sent:* Monday, August 22, 2011 10:09 AM
> *To:* Eric Damery
> *Subject:* FW: JAWS and Cubase
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> Hi Eric
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> Just wanted to confirm that Cubase is not yet accessible using JAWS?
>
> Regards
>
> Glenn
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> I will be meeting with student at his interview for digital musican. JAWS software and the music software we use (Cubase) are not compatable. Apparently there are no"scripts" that will run in JAWS for this program, meaning it is basically inaccessible for the visually impaired.
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> http://www.freelists.org/post/jfw/Is-Cubase-Accessible-Using-JAWS
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> This is not a new issue involving Cubase and software for visual impairment. The tutor was involved in working with Linden Lodge school in Wimbledon in 1994 using Cubase on the Atari computer and the same issues arose. It looks like nothing has been done to improve the situation since!!
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> The only software that is JAWS compatible is one called Cakewalk Sonar. Do any of you know any compatable software to make this work?
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