Thanks to Marie for that analysis. My earlier slightly glib message was serious though - why are there such significant differences in NMH rates? I accept there are particular issues with regions (you'd expect London to be more expensive for instance, which is replicated in higher pay for school teachers). However some of this is odd - why would some disabled students require their NHH support to be CRB checked while others would not? Shouldn't there be consistency across the NMH system re public liability insurance, employers liability insurance and professional indemnity insurance? The biggest NMH providers seem to charge by far the highest rates - Marie suggests that some providers run a small service, some a big service so the on-costs will be spread over more or less workers - this argument seems to be economically counter-intuitive - surely big providers would have smaller costs per NMH due to ecomomy of scale? The argument that some providers have to hire space and some don't strikes me as being odd - if you extrapolate all of the fees via DSA to the big providers surely the costs for office space etc wouldn't be preclusive?
My big anxiety, as a disabled professional / ex disabled student, is that the DSA system must not be a cash cow for non-disabled people.
Joel
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From: Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff. on behalf of Marie Norris
Sent: Wed 15/12/2010 17:57
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: variety of NMH charges
Hi all,
In response to Joel's observation re a variety of NMH charges, my quick offering as to why NMH charges may differ from service to service, and provider to provider is below.
The Student Support Update of March 2007 includes statements clarifying how DSA NMH charges can be calculated by the services which provide them ie simply speaking it is the cost of the pay to the worker plus any costs associated with running and administering that service. (I couldn't forward the document as it made the message too large.)
On-cost factors and amounts will vary from year to year.
On the basis that NMH charges are based on pay plus on-costs you could expect that across the country and between services there will be differing charges for reasons such as:
* Some areas of the country may be required to pay higher pay rates
* Some NMH providers CRB check their workers, others don't
* Insurances may differ across providers, for example there might be public liability insurance, employers liability insurance and professional indemnity insurance
* Some providers run a small service, some a big service so the on-costs will spread over more or less workers
* Some providers have to hire space, some don't
* Etc etc
regards, Marie
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From: Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff. [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Petrie, Joel
Sent: 15 December 2010 15:16
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: NNAC Wiki
At risk of exposing unseasonal white elephant the very useful NNAC Wiki & CLASS database of NMH charges reveal mammoth variations in charges. Why is all this so woolly ; )
Joel
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