Ian,
The message was changed in an attempt to introduce further clarity, not loopholes. If you feel that it should itemise things in additional detail then it can be changed again.
In order to fully understand exactly what your concerns are it may be preferable to draft something up direct to the moderators.
For the record, I personally would consider a charity to be a commercial venture in the current context of that welcome message, ie. they are also bound by the conditions therein. If we should be clearer in this regard then we'll make that change.
Ian
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From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues on behalf of Ian Welton
Sent: Sat 20/11/2010 11:51
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Subject: [data-protection] Not For Profit - Food for thought.
I am somewhat perturbed that the list welcome message is restricted to
saying it should not be used for advertising commercial ventures and
makes no mention of advertising not for profit ventures, (As a recent
contribution rather plainly intimated) because that could indicate
other drivers at work.
Although unlikely to occur this seems to allow
'not for profit organisations' to send promotional material to the list
regularly without other supporting contributions-whilst support for
charities is to be supported, should the list be a venue for such
advertising.
Ongoing previous discussions on the list seemed to
indicate that the vital issue to the list was active and direct
contributions to discussions within the list and not solely
advertising. That still seems to be the case.
Differences of opinion
in what constituted advertising arose in that contributions which
contained only web links to material providing a viewpoint relevant to
a discussion (or potentially a starting point for a discussion) were
not welcome as they were perceived as advertising.
A message that
comes over to me is that on the list the method of contribution is more
important at the moment than the content, and whilst that does no doubt
benefit the majority (myself included) in their main working methods,
written language aquisition and other idiomatic areas, it does seem to
compromise the ability of list members to be at least introduced to
some of the technologies which are being used for communicating
personal data other than by the familiar paradigmatic conceptual
process of the medium of written language with its inherent restraints.
Is this creating a restriction on the ability of data protection to
understand the way personal data is often communicated and more
importantly worlds in which it is being used both privately and
commercially?
Or could that be one of the learning boundaries best not
crossed?
Ian W
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