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and do not forget the LLM ( Information Rights) at Northumbria University.
Alan
Alan Stead
Director
IMTS
Information Management Training Services Ltd
Ravenshead
Nottingham
01623 400497 or
07882 241908
Quoting Simon Howarth <[log in to unmask]>:
> I am mainly in agreement with Tim's earlier comments and have mixed
> experience of the ISEB qualifications from an employers perspective. So much
> so, that I would treat someone with and someone without the qualification
> equally, and rely more on their past experience. I might treat a 1st class
> honours degree in Maths (obviously worked hard) more favourably that the
> often seen 2:2 in Media Studies (wasted 3 years drinking), though. ;-)
>
>
>
> For those wanting a more "meaty" course, Edinburgh University do a Masters
> in Health Information Governance, and whilst it's aimed at the health sector
> it might be of interest to others. The first year really concentrates on the
> DP side of things and at the end of year one you gain a "Certificate" year 2
> is more in depth and in places does have a major health bent to it, but is
> interesting (and challenging) and year 3 is the dissertation.
>
>
>
> I am midway through the 2nd year and would recommend it. End of year 2 you
> have a Diploma. You have 5 years to complete all 3 years.
>
>
>
> I would suggest that something like this, whilst more long term, is more
> relevant given the way that IG is moving. My belief is that as other sectors
> catch up to the NHS in "information governance" the specialist data
> protection areas will get swallowed up into a larger structure. The NHS has
> had the concept of "Information Governance" for about 10 years (I think) and
> having clients in this area and others, it is easy to see how far behind
> non-NHS/health organizations are in a structured, methodical approach to
> information management and information privacy.
>
>
>
> I think the above course would suit those with a long term view in these
> areas. Also whilst it's more work, it's also more cost effective than
> shorter courses, I believe.
>
>
>
> www.fhi.rcsed.ac.uk/site/2494/default.aspx
>
>
>
> Simon Howarth.
>
>
>
> From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Tim Trent
> Sent: 22 April 2010 12:41
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [data-protection] Practitioner Certificate in Data Protection
>
>
>
> Ah, the thing about dog show judging is that it is very rarely based upon
> the livestock and almost always based on who is holding the lead. The
> Governing Council of the Cat Fancy is better than The Kennel Club because
> cats are judged as anonymous creatures, but the dog world has a judge giving
> first prizes in order to be given a first prize next month. In theory digs
> are judged against the ideal dog, not against each other. Then the closest
> to the ideal ought to win. Winning is important because winning dogs attract
> stud fees or litter purchases.
>
>
>
> The best way to regulate dog judging is by the judge never being invited
> again. Why? because the judges who are qualified under the new system are
> also very often those who judge the wrong end of the lead. In other words
> the regulation and the qualifications do not promote any form of fairness.
> The need for quality judging is ever present. Certification does not do the
> job. As a novice judge I was invited to judge English Setters at a gundog
> show in Upminster. My best of Breed winner was a lovely dog with an unknown
> owner. It went on to win Best in Show. This alone says that I did my job
> well. I was never invited to judge again after that. I wonder if that was
> because one of the beaten dogs was handled by one of the great and good who
> expected a favour.
>
>
>
> The qualifications have changed nothing. They have simply generated a
> pseudo-expert class whose expertise is not guaranteed by the certification.
> It's just a door key to more lucrative puppy sales and higher stud fees.
>
>
>
> The Qualifications Industry will always succeed in justifying itself. After
> all, "Surely you wouldn't trust someone with no qualifications?" But sane
> people will and do. They look for expertise, not paperwork.
>
>
>
> On 22 Apr 2010, at 11:33, Griffiths, Ian wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Tim,
>
> Interesting that you should mention judging a competition as something which
> is regulated via qualifications. Just in order to fight the corner of
> education if I may, I ask you to consider that the dog-judging must be done
> fairly and consistently between all judges (I assume not every judge sees
> every dog) and that judges decisions must be repeatable between instances of
> the competition, ie. they can't change their view on what is acceptable
> during or between competitions.
>
> All this points towards criteria under which the judging must take place,
> which must be disseminated, and therefore you would imagine will be taught,
> assessed and therefore accredited.
>
> I for one can see the link between the need for "quality" judging and the
> need to certify the people who are doing the judging.
>
> Of course this isn't the situation in all cases and I would never suggest
> that qualifications replace experience and genuine expertise, but
> nevertheless they have a place in dog-judging, DP and many other
> disciplines.
>
> I will also make the point that even working for an FE college, I don't
> blindly promise people employment on qualifications alone. If I did, that
> balloon would quickly burst when people left my courses and went out in to
> the real world.
>
> Ian
>
>
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> From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues on behalf
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> Subject: Re: [data-protection] Practitioner Certificate in Data Protection
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>
> This runs from The Kennel Club now insisting that dog judges have
> qualifications in judging dogs (and creating a revenue stream form it)
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