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Re: sharing data with system developers

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Simon Howarth <[log in to unmask]>

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Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:20:40 +0100

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I have some experience of what you describe. However, it's not about negating audit trails as these will be on a test system and so not live. It's at least in part, about how the data can be transferred and used and the risk mitigation for doing this. This ranges from different server locations though to developers being in a separate locked room with one printer only fed with pink paper so that output can be identified and destroyed after use. It can get complex, and is not a recommended practice, but in the real world...

One other thing I have stumbled upon "Data Protection: Guidelines for the use of personal data in system testing" by Louise Wiseman and Jenny Gordon, pub. 1 July 2009. I have not read it, and probably won't given that it is yet another overpriced tome, but some people may be prepared to pay the exorbitant price....£48.95 (Amazon) Normal price £75!!!!

Simon Howarth.

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From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of [log in to unmask]
Sent: 13 October 2009 16:19
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Subject: Re: [data-protection] sharing data with system developers

Is anybody able to provide an example of method(s) which successfully 
manage the data security issues created by using live data for test 
purposes?

I am thinking here of the complete negation of any existing audit 
trails for the data, and hence an inability by those particular means 
to factually identify for legal purposes when and if particular data 
were viewed.

If risk management is used, the arguments presented would be 
interesting.


Ian W

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[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Tim Trent
Sent: 12 October 2009 18:26
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Subject: Re: [data-protection] sharing data with system developers


The fact that people have proved that consent is not a legal 
requirement is fine. But the issue is by no means only the law, but the 
perception of the people whose data is, they will say, being misused by 
being deployed for testing purposes.

One can not hide behind legal niceties where exposure of members of 
the public's personal data is concerned. Instead one has to deal with 
the reality created by perception. And, lawfulness notwithstanding, if 
the perception is that the data has been used unlawfully, then nothing 
will convince the public otherwise. You might compare that with MPs and 
their use of money on expenses. The public has disembowelled them 
despite their claims in many cases being lawful.

Perception will always win the day.

So the discussion is about whether one wishes to risk public opinion 
being against one's organisation, with all the trauma to careers that 
will cause.  The ways a silly poem:

"Here lies the body of Billy Wray
Who died defending his right of way"

Of course his name may not have been Billy, nor Wray, and he probably 
failed to die, but discretion would have served him better.

I'll stick to advising my clients not to consider testing with live 
data, I think. I don't fancy the law suit if I don't give that advice.

Lee Gardiner wrote: 
I don't think the other Tim is disputing that, merely that consent is 
not 
the only means an organisation can use to justify a particular type 
of 
processing, whatever that processing is.

Whether you, me or anyone else likes it or not you do not need 
consent providing you can satisfy a different condition for 
processing, 
end of story.

Lee Gardiner
  


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