Why don't you ask the people who advised that this 10 hour rule should be
adopted to explain their reasoning and motivations for doing this, and how
they can justify it under the terms of the legislative framework? Maybe this
would help get to the bottom of this matter once and for all. It didn't just
appear out of thin air.
Ian Francis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pauline Sumner" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: Needs Assessments and the 10 hour rule
>I find this so strange that we are trying very hard to provide a
> professional service for our students, yet still we are asking the same
> questions for which we are no clearer about answers!!
> Pauline
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff.
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Alice Kemble-Davies
> Sent: 05 February 2009 13:37
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: FW: Needs Assessments and the 10 hour rule
>
> Sorry, I should clarify that question further in light of the responses.
> If
> an HE is providing support in anticipation of DSA, usually 10 weeks will
> have
> passed before the process is complete. Will funding authorities
> therefore
> accept applications for 1-1 extensions prior to getting the needs
> assessment?
>
> Thanks again,
> Alice
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alice Kemble-Davies
> Sent: 05 February 2009 13:31
> To: 'Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff.'
> Subject: RE: Needs Assessments and the 10 hour rule
>
> Going back to Peter's original query about the dilemma of HE's providing
> support in anticipation of DSA being approved, and the limitations now
> presented in this context by the 10 hour rule - can anyone shed any
> light?
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Alice
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff.
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of James Palfreman-Kay
> Sent: 05 February 2009 11:57
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Needs Assessments and the 10 hour rule
>
> Thanks John for below. Could you provide a bit more information about
> the
> letter you have mentioned below?
>
> Many thanks
>
> James
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff.
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of John Conway
> Sent: 05 February 2009 10:03
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Needs Assessments and the 10 hour rule
>
> as Chris Dunlop is a member of this email forum and has signed a letter
> explaining the procedure, perhaps he might circulate it and explain its
> meaning to us all??? we really must have an end to rumours and
> confusion,
> PLEASE!
>
> Dr John S Conway BSc PhD FGS FRGS FHEA MNADP
> Director, MSc International Rural Development
> Director, BSc Countryside Management
> Chair, Research Committee
> Principal Lecturer : Soil & Earth Science
> Disability Officer
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> tel 01285 652531 fax 01285 650219
>
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>
> From: Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff. on
> behalf of Claire Wickham
> Sent: Thu 05/02/2009 09:46
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Needs Assessments and the 10 hour rule
>
>
>
> Yes...exactly Ros: we need to send off such a request and have so far
> been
> unable to obtain clarification of the procedure and to whom the
> eventual
> decision will be communciated. If anyone has solved this I'd love to
> know the
> answer.
>
> with thanks,
>
> Claire
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff. on
> behalf of Ros Lehany
> Sent: Wed 04/02/2009 17:01
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Needs Assessments and the 10 hour rule
>
> It's my understanding from several sources, including Elaine Urquhart,
> that there is no limit to how many hours can be recommended by a Needs
> Assessor but that only 10 hours will be granted initially. Extra hours
> will need to be requested at a later date (and in this case it could be
> immediately ) and will need to be backed up by written evidence of need.
> In the future this evidence is likely to be a standardised ILP.
>
> What isn't clear, and what I am trying to find out, is where this
> request goes. To SLC/LA or back to the Needs Assessor?
>
> Ros
>
> Ros Lehany
> Chair- Association of Dyslexia Specialists in Higher Education
>
> email: [log in to unmask]
> Work: 0113 2193038
> Mobile: 0779 149 4690
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff.
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Peter Hill
> Sent: 03 February 2009 16:49
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Needs Assessments and the 10 hour rule
>
> Hi
>
> I'm running into some difficulty with one of the HEIs whose students I
> do Needs Assessments for. The disability service there is particularly
> supportive and proactive. As a result, they often provide 1-1 dyslexia
> support on faith - before the student has gone through the DSA process.
> Consequently, I am assessing students who have already received well
> over 10 hours of support in the current academic year.
>
> I suppose I could recommend 10 hours - plus whatever has been provided
> already. That could be quite messy though, as I could not reliably
> quantify what has been provided, as I do not know how long it will be
> before the awards officer agrees things (or not, as the case may be).
> Hope that makes sense!
>
> I'm coming under some pressure from the HEI and urgently need to resolve
> this.
>
> Any thoughts and advice would be much appreciated.
>
> Regards
>
> Peter
>
> --
>
> Peter J Hill
>
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> Mobile: 07751 792711
>
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