Barry, Andy
Do you think it would be useful if other professionals send their ILPs
to the list to look at?
I think it would be useful to gather as much feedback as possible.
Kind regards
Ekaterina Barakhta
Senior Assessor
>The Access Centre
>Disabled Student Services (Frank Henshaw Building)
>The Open University
>Hammerwood Gate
>Kents Hill
>Milton Keynes
>United Kingdom
>MK7 6BY
>Tel +44 (0) 1908 655921
>
>
-----Original Message-----
From: Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff.
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of A Velarde
Sent: 07 November 2008 10:38
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: 10 hour "rule" for dyslexic support
Barry. It is a very impressive document. However I think it is important
to differentiate that this is an 'individual learning plan' not an
'inclusive learning plan'. it follows a medical model perspective. Ta,
Andy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Barry Hayward" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 9:52 AM
Subject: Re: 10 hour "rule" for dyslexic support
> attached is an ILP template we've produced, be interested in any views
> on it's suitability
>
> Barry Hayward
> Goldsmiths
>
> --On 07 November 2008 06:28 +0000 Amanda Kent <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
>> Andy,
>> Where or what is the conflict of interest in your view?
>>
>> Much this discussion thread is about an administrative attitude to
>> disability, tempered with some aspects of professionalization
issues.
>> The 'who has what qualification' element seems to me to be red
>> herring because the issue on the ILP (from the administrative point
>> of
>> view) is whether or not the document is fit for purpose. The purpose
>> appears to be to provide a means of auditing the service providers
>> in such a way as to produce evidence of continuing need for the
>> provision of a service which is an additional cost to the student
>> (and therefore DSA-able). That surely IS a conflict of interest
>> because the producer of the ILP is also the agent who stands to
>> benefit financially from the continued provision of the service.
>>
>> The argument that 'dyslexia tutors should be producing ILPs anyway'
>> is similarly irrelevant because we see emerging a situation where
>> the SLC refer to (as yet unspecified) criteria, ie the existing
>> ILP's may be unfit for SLC purpose and have to be adapted to suit
>> the demands of the DSA audit process.
>>
>> So with regard to the development of the ILP template, the criteria,
>> and its possible relationship to down-streaming from the DSA report
>> in an manner that fits with the SLC (or QAG??) audit purposes, there
>> may be risk of conflict of interest arising as a result of
>> developers/advisers coming from within the existing DSA sector and
>> adopting an approach that either replicates or protects their
dominant positions or market-shares.
>> That might be a risk or two worth taking in order to ensure
>> stakeholder involvement and also a sense of continuity during a
period of change.
>> Amanda
>>
>> On Thu, 6 Nov 2008 16:08:55 -0000, A Velarde <[log in to unmask]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Ekaterine. I think you have spotted a conflict of interest here.
>>> Ta, Andy ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: E.Barakhta
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 2:45 PM
>>> Subject: Re: 10 hour "rule" for dyslexic support
>>>
>>>
>>> Andy
>>>
>>> I totally agree with you.
>>>
>>> Personally I would also feel concerned that the same people 'who
>>> drafted
>> the NAR' are now devising the ILP. Unless these people have
>> qualifications of Educational Psychologists or SpLD tutors I fail to
>> see how their experience as Needs Assessors can contribute to
>> devising an effective ILP.
>>>
>>> Kind regards
>>>
>>> Ekaterina Barakhta
>>> Senior Assessor
>>> The Access Centre
>>> Disabled Student Services (Frank Henshaw Building) The Open
>>> University Hammerwood Gate Kents Hill Milton Keynes United
>>> Kingdom
>>> MK7 6BY
>>> Tel +44 (0) 1908 655921
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> ----
>>> --
>> ----
>>> From: Discussion list for disabled students and their support
staff.
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of A Velarde
>>> Sent: 06 November 2008 14:32
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Subject: Re: 10 hour "rule" for dyslexic support
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi. Technically the ILP and a LEA- Assessment of Needs should be
>>> and
>> reflect two different processes. I appreciate that currently they
>> look as if they are the same, particularly when there main concern
>> is the provision of auxiliary aids and services financed by an LEA.
>>>
>>> From a Disability Office that embraces the Social Model however,
>>> an ILP
>> and an Assessment of Needs are different. An ILP is an institutional
>> document - with a focus on identifying and addressing organisational
>> barriers (environmental issues). The LEA Assessment of Needs is
>> rather an evaluation of individual efforts under the circumstances
>> of an impairment and follows a medical model of disabilities. The
>> first one docusses on adaptations and adjustments, the second one on
>> auxiliary aids and services.
>>>
>>> This of course is a non PC statement.
>>>
>>> Best, Andy
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Ros Lehany
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 2:17 PM
>>> Subject: Re: 10 hour "rule" for dyslexic support
>>>
>>>
>>> ADSHE (Association of Dyslexia Specialists in Higher Education)
are
>>> hoping
>> to have examples of ILPs in current use uploaded to their website
>> early next week- www.adshe.org.uk
>>>
>>>
>>> We met with Elaine Urquhart recently and she told us that
>>> '.... the ILP template is work in progress and is being devised
by
>>> the
>> people who drafted the NAR (SLC, DSA QAG, DIUS, ASASA) and will be
>> out soon on DSA-QAG website.' She also said that ' In order to get
>> feedback it will need to be used for a certain period of time before
>> it can be evaluated'
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>> Ros
>>>
>>> Ros Lehany
>>> Chair- Association of Dyslexia Specialists in Higher Education
>>>
>>> email: [log in to unmask]
>>> Work: 0113 2193038
>>> Mobile: 0779 149 4690
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Discussion list for disabled students and their support
staff.
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Catherine Salisbury
>>> Sent: 06 November 2008 14:01
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Subject: Re: 10 hour "rule" for dyslexic support
>>>
>>> Hi carol
>>> I have an Ilp that I use as a freelance tutor- I have just
revamped
>>> it to
>> be in line with the guidelines (I hope!) Would you like to see a copy
>> of it off- list?
>>> Cathy
>>>
>>> On 6 Nov 2008, at 13:09, "E.Barakhta" <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:
>>>
>>> > Carol
>>> >
>>> > My assumption is that the ILP would look like Idividual
Education
>>> > Plan that is devised for children with Special Needs at school.
>>> >
>>> > Kind regards
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Ekaterina Barakhta
>>> > Senior Assessor
>>> >> The Access Centre
>>> >> Disabled Student Services (Frank Henshaw Building) The Open
>>> >> University Hammerwood Gate Kents Hill Milton Keynes United
Kingdom
>>> >> MK7 6BY
>>> >> Tel +44 (0) 1908 655921
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: Discussion list for disabled students and their support
>>> staff.
>>> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Carol Thomas
>>> > Sent: 06 November 2008 13:06
>>> > To: [log in to unmask]
>>> > Subject: Re: 10 hour "rule" for dyslexic support
>>> >
>>> > As the manager of the Learning Support Service responsible for
>>> > supporting the learning and teaching of students with SpLDs I
would
>>> > personally like to thank everyone on the list for their
>>> > contribution. Without this list (and several other disability
>>> > lists) I would be unaware of the changes. I feel that I should
have
>>> > been informed of this formally - but I realise these formal
>>> > communications may not be delivered to the relevant person in
each
>>> > HEI.
>>> >
>>> > I still feel that I do not know what the ILP should look like -
and
>>> > have not seen a standard template. Is there one available? The
>>> only
>>> > document I have formally seen so far seen are linked to
assessment
>>> > centres (and initial student assessment) not items relevant to
>>> study
>>> > skills providers and a ten hour checklist/ progress monitor.
Please
>>> > let me know if I have missed this template.
>>> >
>>> > If anyone in the HEI sector has developed an ILP template and
would
>>> > be willing to share this please could you contact me.
>>> >
>>> > Regards
>>> > Carol
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Carol Thomas, Head of Learning Support Services Learning and
>>> > Teaching Institute University of Chester Parkgate Road Chester,
CH1
>>> > 4BJ (01244) 513311
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>
> Barry Hayward
> Disability Coordinator
> Student Support Services
> Goldsmiths, University of London
> New Cross
> London
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