Thanks for all who have responded. I take Donald's point about risk
assessment and it will be interesting to see what view the ICO takes on
the issue if and when he starts auditing under his new powers. Given the
history of the last 18 months and the fact that human error / ignorance
can easily override policy even in the best of organisations, I suspect
they will take a lot of persuading that some technical solution is not
required in an organisation such as ours which stores some extremely
sensitive personal data.
And if we have not even (yet) carried out a thorough and balanced risk
assessment ....
Phillip Bradshaw
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[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Donald Henderson
Sent: 24 November 2008 09:53
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Subject: Re: [data-protection] How to Take Data Security Seriously
Phil,
The problem with what you have said is that risk assessment is a
subjective thing for every organisation (and even for parts of an
organisation). There is no such thing as a definitive answer. In each
case the risk of data loss has to be balanced against the cost of
implementing it and the problems that implementing it will cause.
In many cases the answer will come out to be that endpoint security
software should be implemented, but not in every case.
Regards
Donald Henderson
Information Compliance Manager
Perth & Kinross Council
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Sent: 21 November 2008 17:10
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Subject: Re: [data-protection] How to Take Data Security Seriously
Given the history of the last 12 months or so , and setting aside the
araldite solution, does anyone agree with the proposition that failure
to implement appropriate endpoint security software giving policy based
granular control of what data can be transferred to portable media (and
who by) must now be regarded as a breach of DP principle 7 ?
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