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Subject:

Re: 10 hour "rule" for dyslexic support

From:

Bryan Jones <[log in to unmask]>

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Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff.

Date:

Thu, 30 Oct 2008 15:43:03 +0000

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There is no 10 hour rule for students, as such.  SLC have stated that 10 sessions will be sufficient for most students, justification for additional sessions must be provided.  The only thing new here is the figure of 10 (anyone remember 23?).  And 10 sessions is too many for a lot of students as either they don't take up the offer at all or attend for one session and then decide that their time is better spent elsewhere, as funding authorities will be aware.



Students need not be told that they only have 10 sessions, so they should use them wisely.  Reports produced in many Assessment Centres have always but a limit on this recommendation, be it, One Term in the first instance or a vaguer "one year" and always "To be reviewed".  The review to be carried out by the Study Skills Tutor, the DSA Assessor not having been privy to the Student's skills sessions so not being in any position to undertake that review.



The review is now effectively the "Individual Learning Plan", (with an emphasis on the word "individual") and which should have been produced anyway,  as I'm sure would have been included in Study Skills Tutors training. 



SLC have now, made explicit what Assessment Centres have been referring to / alluding for many years, i.e. that for the Study Skills sessions to continue, further justification is required.



I'm not sure how one can operate without keeping records of what has taken place and in the case of specialist dyslexia study skills what issues need to be addressed in the future.  The student may well have a different tutor in their second year, who would need such a report, I would have thought, apart from anything else.





Bryan Jones,

Manager, Disability Support Services

& North London Regional Access Centre,

Middlesex University

Tel: 020 8411 5366



-----Original Message-----

From: Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff. [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Amanda Kent

Sent: 30 October 2008 12:01

To: [log in to unmask]

Subject: Re: 10 hour "rule" for dyslexic support



Ros,

‘Next year’ meaning the applicants for 2009/10 DSA. Those students will 

have DSA administered by SLC. The application form I understand should be 

available about now according to a PowerPoint slide 19 Contact Centre 

Update May 08

http://www.dsa-qag.org.uk/content.asp?ContentID=66

(DSA application ‘paper-based’ according to an LA officer who interpreted 

this slide for me when it came out).



However, there are DSA needs assessments out there now with the ’10 thing’ 

and they have gone to LAs, not just SLC at Darlington, and continue to do 

so. Here’s why:

In August 2008 a new needs assessment template and instructions were issued 

with the request to start using straight away. This was interpreted by a 

number of centres and assessors to mean ‘use for all NARs’ (bear in mind 

also that anyone who has an interest in feeding back on the new template 

but who does not see large numbers of students from the SLC pilot 

authorities is in a position of having to try the template and instructions 

out on students whose DSA is not administered by SLC pilot)

http://www.dsa-qag.org.uk/content.asp?ContentID=77

The examples and the Completing instructions have the 10 and the ILP in 

them and there have been two further statements on this – 12/9 and 21/10 – 

available here: http://www.dsa-qag.org.uk/news-list.asp



Presumably the LAs will continue to accept, question or decline 

recommendations as they see fit, or as they have been requested by whoever 

holds the reigns during the state of transition from LA to SLC.

 



Amanda 















On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 09:43:56 +0000, Ros Platton <[log in to unmask]> 

wrote:



> Many Thanks for that Simon,

>

>Ros

>

>From: Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff. 

[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Simon Jarvis

>Sent: 30 October 2008 09:43

>To: [log in to unmask]

>Subject: Re: 10 hour "rule" for dyslexic support

>

>The ten hour thing is in force now, Ros, but only for students being dealt 

with at Darlington, (i.e. those in the pilot scheme).

>

>Once SLC assume responsibility for all new applicants next year then it 

will obviously apply to everyone apart from OU, NHS and Scottish and 

Northern Irish students.

>

>Simon

>

>Ros Platton wrote:

>Dear All,

>

>As a disability officer working part time in a small institution, I am a 

bit out of the loop on these matters.  Could anyone please enlighten me as 

to when the 10 hour rule comes in or is it already in force?

>

>Thanks,

>

>Ros Platton

>

>From: Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff. 

[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of John Conway

>Sent: 30 October 2008 08:57

>To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>

>Subject: Re: 10 hour "rule" for dyslexic support

>

>Without wishing to be rude, do you really think a dyslexic student with 

all his / her literacy problems will fully understand such wording?   I 

find that many arrive with their draft report and ask “what does this 

mean? “  “what do I do know?”

>

>I’m wondering whether to suggest to SLC that the “advice to student” 

section is moved right to the beginning almost like an executive summary 

because in its present place, buried deep in a long winded report [which is 

obviously of great value to the assessor, to the SLC and to me] which the 

student doesn’t always understand……………….

>

>Could we have something straightforward like “10 hours of dylsexic study 

skills are available, if you need more your tutor will arrange it” ????   

Please??

>

>John

>

>

>Dr John S Conway BSc PhD FGS FRGS FHEA MNADP

>Director, MSc International Rural Development

>Director, BSc Countryside Management

>Chair, Research Committee

>Principal Lecturer : Soil Science

>Disability Officer

>Royal Agricultural College, Cirencester, Glos GL7 6JS

>01285 652531 fax 01285 650219

>

>

>

>

>In view of the issues XXX is experiencing, it is suggested that he/she

>

>would

>

>benefit from access to study skills sessions, and it is suggested that

>

>these

>

>sessions initially be arranged for a minimum of ten hours, after which

>

>further sessions could be arranged through the creation of an

>

>Independent

>

>Learning Plan (ILP): in accordance with current guidelines.

>

>

>

> Note: this rate and duration are based on current information and may

>

>therefore have to be varied at a later date. There may be a need for

>

>greater

>

>frequency, or for the support to be continued over a longer term, and

>

>this

>

>should be arranged on confirmation from the Support Tutor and the

>

>University

>

>Disability Office and in accordance with current guidelines.

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>

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>

>Ros Platton

>

>Disability Advisor

>

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>Lamorbey Park Campus, Burnt Oak Lane, Sidcup, Kent. DA15 9DF. UK.

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>t +44(0)20 8308 2600   f +44(0)20 8308 0542   ddi +44(0)20 8308 2610

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>--

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>Simon Jarvis

>

>Head of Disability and Dyslexia Service

>

>Queen Mary University of London

>

>Tel: 020 7882 2765

>

> 

> 

>Ros Platton

>Disability Advisor

> 

>Lamorbey Park Campus, Burnt Oak Lane, Sidcup, Kent. DA15 9DF. UK.

>t +44(0)20 8308 2600  f +44(0)20 8308 0542  ddi +44(0)20 8308 2610  

>P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail

> 

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