Would the LA check the evidence provided by any other category of disabled
student against a check-list intended to determine suitability of evidence
for DSA eligibility?
Amanda Kent
On Sat, 9 Aug 2008 14:49:35 +0100, Jeff Hughes <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>The AEP does not issue practice certificates.
>
>However, continued membership depends on continuing qualification as an EP
>as described in my earlier posting.
>
>An interesting aside to this is that LAs can employ EPs who are neither
>members of BPsS nor AEP yet do have appropriate qualifications.
>
>Would they refuse their own employee's report???
>
>I am not convinced that the EP training courses do specifically train to
>the working party report.
>
>More will be clearer next year (or when every the HPC gets into gear....)
>
>Jeff
>
>
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>> Dear Julia,
>>
>> The DIUS guidance gives the BPS as one example of a professional
association,
>
>> not the sole qualifying body.
>>
>> http://www.dcsf.gov.uk/studentsupport/dsa__1.shtml
>>
>> DSA specific learning difficulties group (dyslexia, dyspraxia,
dyscalculia
>and
>> AD(H)D)
>
>> <http://www.dcsf.gov.uk/studentsupport/www.sasc.org.uk>
>
>> ...
>
>> The success of the new framework recommended in the report relies
heavily on
>> the support of local authorities who are strongly encouraged to adopt
the
>> recommendations. The following schedule shows dates for introducing
specific
>> parts of the framework described in the report’s recommendations.
>
>>
>
>> Diagnostic assessments carried out before September 2006
>
>> · Local authorities to accept diagnostic assessments carried out
by
>> psychologists and suitably qualified specialist teachers. Specialist
teachers
>
>> who assess dyslexia should hold AMBDA (Associate Membership of the
British
>> Dyslexia Association) or a qualification from an advanced training course
>which
>> assesses adults for dyslexia and is recognised by the British Dyslexia
>> Association’s Accreditation Board.
>
>> Diagnostic assessments carried out between September 2006 and August
2007
>
>> · Local authorities to accept diagnostic assessments carried out
by
>> psychologists and suitably qualified specialist teachers as above.
>
>> · Diagnostic reports to be in the format recommended in the
SpLDs
>> Working Group’s report.
>
>> · Diagnostic reports to use tests recommended in the SpLDs
Working
>> Group’s guidelines or added by the SpLD Test Evaluation Committee
(STEC).
>
>> Diagnostic assessments carried out between September 2007 and August
2008
>
>> · Local authorities to accept diagnostic reports from
psychologists
>and
>> specialist teachers. Specialist teachers must hold a current practising
>> certificate in assessing specific learning difficulties issued by their
>> relevant professional association (for example, the Professional
Association
>of
>> Teachers of Students with Specific Learning Difficulties (PATOSS) or
Dyslexia
>
>> Action). Psychologists must hold a current practising certificate issued
by
>> their relevant professional association (for example, the British
>Psychological
>> Society).
>
>> · Diagnostic reports to be in the report format recommended in
the
>> SpLDs Working Group’s guidelines.
>
>> · Diagnostic reports to use tests recommended in the SpLDs
Working
>> Group’s guidelines or added by the SpLD Test Evaluation Committee
(STEC).
>
>> Diagnostic assessments carried out from September 2008
>
>> · Procedures as from September 2007 above plus the following.
>
>> · All training for assessing specific learning difficulties to
>> incorporate the SpLDs Working Group’s guidelines.
>
>>
>
>>
>>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff.
on
>behalf
>> of Julia Tait
>> Sent: Wed 06/08/2008 11:44
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Cc:
>> Subject: Re: qualifications for psychologists
>>
>>
>> That's very helpful. Thank you.
>> Julia
>>
>> Jeff Hughes wrote:
>
>> If the organisation referred to is the AEP (Association of
Educational
>> Psychologists) which has its office in Durham then the be a
member you have
>> to be fully qualified.
>>
>> That is a first degree in psychology and postgraduate
qualifications in
>> Teaching and Educational Psychology.
>>
>> There are no EPs qualified by the new three years doctoral
route yet.
>>
>> Sometimes this is stated as being "eligible" for british
Psychological
>> Society (BPsS) Division of Educational and Child Psychology
(DECP)
>> membership.
>>
>> However to join the AEP you do NOT have to be a member of the
BPsS as well.
>>
>>
>> To have a practice certificate you have to be a member of the
BPsS -
>> satisfying the same criteria as the AEP membership AND you must
be a
>> Chartered Psychologist.
>>
>> Not all psychologists are members of the BPsS and not all who
are members
>> of the BPsS are Chartered.
>>
>> It is NOT necessary to be in the BPsS to practice as a
psychologist in the
>> UK nor is it necessary to be Chartered.
>>
>> Next year (or when they finally get round to it all
psychologists who
>> practice WILL have to register with the Health Professions
Council (HPC)
>> but once again it will not be necessary to be a member of the
BPsS nor to
>> be Chartered - all BPsS Chartered Psychologists, DECP members
and members
>> of the AEP will be entered automatically in the new register.
(Similar
>> provisions are in place for other types of psychologists.)
>>
>>
>> I think you will have worked out that the psychologist
concerned, if a
>> member of the AEP (never heard of the ABEP!), is well enough
qualified to
>> do the assessment for this student. It follows that the person
refusing to
>> accept the report would be wrong not the psychologist.
>>
>> I would suggest you ask the psychologist directly for their CV
and ask them
>> to take the issue back to the decision maker!
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>
>> We have recently had a dyslexia assessment report
submitted which was
>carried
>>
>
>>
>>
>
>> out by an Educational Psychologist who does not hold a
practising
>certificate
>>
>
>>
>>
>
>> from BPS but he is a member of the Association of British
Educational
>> Psychologists. The LEA has turned down the report,
leaving the severely
>
>> dyslexic student with no DSA, as the EP has no practising
certificate in
>>
>
>> spite
>>
>
>> of the fact that the report is competent and uses the
relevant tests, as
>> outlined in the working party guidelines. The student
paid 400 for the
>> assessment and is understandably not happy about the
prospect of handing
>out
>>
>> another 3-400. Has anyone out there had a similar
experience; what is
>the
>> status of the ABEP and can you suggest any solutions?
>>
>
>>
>>
>
>> Thank you.
>> -- Julia Tait Adviser for Students with Dyslexia & Other
Specific Learning
>
>> Difficulties Student Services, Oxford Brookes University
Helena Kennedy
>>
>
>> Student
>>
>
>> Centre, Headington Hill Campus Oxford OX3 0BP 01865
484659
>>
>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>> --
>> Julia Tait
>> Adviser for Students with Dyslexia
>> & Other Specific Learning Difficulties
>> Student Services,
>> Oxford Brookes University
>> Helena Kennedy Student Centre,
>> Headington Hill Campus
>> Oxford OX3 0BP
>>
>> 01865 484659
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