Excuse my ignorance, but I presume the substances listed below are types
of medication?  I might be wrong about this but I don't think the
student can rely on peers and lecturers to give medication to him/her.
In most cases first aiders aren't even allowed to administer medication.
So, I'm not sure how her peers and tutors would feel about this and what
the University policy would be.

This student may need full time carer support in this case and I would
think that it definitely has to come through Social Services, it can't
be counted as non medical as giving medication is medical help.

Sorry to throw cold water on this, but you might encounter some problems
here with getting others to give medication.

Regards
Pauline.

-----Original Message-----
From: Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff.
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Hammond Nicola Miss (DOS)
Sent: 06 December 2007 11:52
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Subject: Re: Managing student with severe uncontrolled diabetes

Many thanks Anna,

That was really my feeling.


Nicky

>-----Original Message-----
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>staff. [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Anna
>Charles-Jones
>Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 11:50 AM
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>Subject: Re: Managing student with severe uncontrolled diabetes
>
>Hi Nicky,
>
>Others may not agree but I feel that your best chance of
>success would be through the 'direct payments' system from
>social services.  I can't see DSA funding support particularly
>at night however, from my own experience of using direct
>payments as a student, I was able to use the funding to ensure
>my own safety in the sense of just having someone around (or
>to help me get home from the pub!).  Your student should
>contact the duty social worker at their home social services
>department to start talking about the support required.
>
>All the best,
>
>Anna
>
>
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>>>> "Hammond Nicola Miss (DOS)" <[log in to unmask]>
>06/12/2007 10:56 >>>
>Dear Dis-forum,
>
>Has anyone had any experience of gaining funding from DSA / Social
>Services for non-medical helper support on the basis of severe
>uncontrolled type 1 diabetes or similar (eg uncontrolled epilepsy?
>
>I have had a prospective student enquiry. The student reports
>unpredictable hypoglycaemic events where he/she is unable to
>summon help
>due to lack of warning and almost instant lack of oxygen to the brain
>resulting in confusion.  In these instances, the student would need
>someone to be around to recgnise the problem (predictable movement and
>sounds)and give dextrose or hypostop.  Specialist medical help is not
>required.  During lectures and seminars there would be no
>requirement as
>the applicant is happy for peers, tutors and staff to be made fully
>aware.  The most concerning time is at night, when I feel a carer could
>be needed as a call bell/ intercom to security would not be adequate as
>he/she cannot alert anyone when the events start and they
>would take too
>long to respond. These issues are resolved at home by loved ones
>"listening out" or in residential school as the applicant stays in a
>shared dorm.
>
>I don't think social services will pick this up as the need will not be
>seen as critical or substantive.  But I am having difficulty arguing it
>as DSA relevant.
>
>Any Ideas, is it worth me approaching DSA or social services for this
>type of support?
>
>Nicky Hammond
>

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