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Re: CCTV may fail to comply with the law article reference

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Simon Howarth <[log in to unmask]>

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Simon Howarth <[log in to unmask]>

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Fri, 1 Jun 2007 12:02:25 +0100

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Except that " ... that the vast majority of CCTV if used incorrectly and
could potentially be inadmissible in court." Is grammatically incorrect and
does not really make sense. Take the "and" out though and you have something
meaningful, but I can't see such a big error getting through.

One thing that has puzzled me is CCTV that stores images digitally. Digital
images are not (as far as I recall) admissible in court unless it can be
proved that the images could not have been manipulated. This means that
there needs to be certain safeguards against such images being held
insecurely if they are to be used.... Not sure if I am right on this, but I
would suspect that if my understanding is correct then many CCTV recordings
are potentially useless in a courtroom.

Simon Howarth.



-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Robert (Bob) Waixel
Sent: 01 June 2007 09:47
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [data-protection] CCTV may fail to comply with the law article
reference

Judging by the extremely limited list (TWO) of sponsors so far at:
http://www.camerawatch.org.uk/aboutus.html
it seems to be an organisation with great aims - some wide-reaching PR 
for its cause, and little else - so far.

I wonder whether the statement
" ... that the vast majority of CCTV is used incorrectly and could 
potentially be inadmissible in court."
might be a (very slight) misprint for:-
" ... that the vast majority of CCTV if used incorrectly and could 
potentially be inadmissible in court."

Only one letter changed so cant make a big difference...(!)

BoB Waixel.
========================================================================
Tim Turner wrote:

> I think everything you need to know is in the following sentence from 
> the article:
> "A new national advisory body for the industry, CameraWatch, which has 
> the backing of the police and the Information Commissioner’s Office, 
> claimed yesterday that the vast majority of CCTV is used incorrectly 
> and could potentially be inadmissible in court."
> So someone is setting up a new organisation and needs some publicity, 
> they have the backing of the ICO for the organisation but not 
> necessarily the specific comments, and finally the vast majority of 
> CCTV "could potentially" be inadmissible, but could equally be 
> entirely admissible, it all depends. It's a sweeping statement with 
> assumption rather than evidence to back it up. I think either 
> CameraWatch could be accused of hyperbole, or the Times has hyped it 
> up, or it's a bit of both.
>
> Tim Turner
> Data Protection / FOI Officer
> Legal and Property Services
> Wigan Council
>
> Tel: 01942 488354 (ext 8354)
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues 
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Lawrence Serewicz
> Sent: Thu 31 May 2007 19:12
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [data-protection] CCTV may fail to comply with the law 
> article reference
>
>
> Dear All,
>
> While the topic may not be data protection, wonder what you thought of 
> the following article. I am not aware of the reasons why the CCTV is 
> now considered illegal. Does this relate to data protection issues?
>
> The following is taken from today's (31 May)Times
>
> NEARLY ALL CCTV CAMERAS ARE ILLEGAL
> Ninety per cent of Britain's 14.2m CCTV cameras may be failing to 
> comply with the law, according to the new national advisory body for 
> the industry. The body claimed yesterday that the vast majority of 
> CCTV is used incorrectly and recordings could therefore potentially be 
> inadmissible in court.
> Times p.33
>
> Best regards,
>
> Lawrence Serewicz
>
>
> Lawrence W. Serewicz
> Policy and Partnership Manager
> Corporate Development Unit
> Wear Valley District Council
> 01388-761-985
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