It shows that it is important that people get involved in politics (or local
affairs) so that they now how things work. It is nearly 30 years since I was
involved in local politics and it is only recently that the rules have
changed - postal voting as well as continuous electoral registers.
N
----- Original Message -----
From: "Broom, Doreen" <[log in to unmask]>
To: "Nick Landau" <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 2:03 PM
Subject: RE: UK Elections and Secrecy
The signature comes in the postal vote envelope and all are checked and
that they tally up with the number.
D
-----Original Message-----
From: Nick Landau [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 03 May 2007 14:02
To: Broom, Doreen
Subject: Re: UK Elections and Secrecy
Of course, not in the Scottish Borders!
I would probably argue that that means the success of the system, rather
than it is overkill.
But you have now to provide a copy of your signature to the electoral
register for postal ballots. I am not sure that if this is done before
each
election.
Regards
Nick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Broom, Doreen" <[log in to unmask]>
To: "Nick Landau" <[log in to unmask]>;
<[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 1:56 PM
Subject: RE: UK Elections and Secrecy
Maybe it's just that we are all honest up here as we have never ever had
to investigate any such fraud............
D
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[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Nick Landau
Sent: 03 May 2007 13:46
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: UK Elections and Secrecy
I assume that Tim meant that a less honest Government (or maybe their
supporters) could open the ballot boxes and match the numbers on the
ballot
papers with the voters list and collate the party voted for.
This would require a lot of statistical or clerical revolutionaries, in
the
mayhem of a revolution.
Of course, in societies where the ballot is not secret you get 99 per
cent
voting for the ruling party - either because they daren't vote otherwise
or
there is no admission of a revolution.
I suppose one might say that we don't something to be so secret that it
cannot be identified whether a massive fraud has taken place.
I speak as someone who was both a Returning Officer of a Students Union
(where after all many politicians honed their electoral skills and
tricks)
and the Electoral Officer many years ago of a Constituency Political
Party.
Nick Landau
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----- Original Message -----
From: Broom, Doreen
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 1:34 PM
Subject: Re: [data-protection] UK Elections and Secrecy
Staff are not able to identify people from it. At the end of the night
they
are all sealed in envelopes/boxes and are kept for a year and then
destroyed. In this Council they all go to the Sheriff Clerk's Office
where
they are locked away and the only way they are opened is if there is
suspicion of an election fraud and the envelopes/boxes would be opened
for
that purpose.
Candidates may obtain lists of people who voted but this does not
identify
who the person voted for.
This is Friday for me as I shall be working at the election count and
won't
get to my bed until the early hours of tomorrow morning.
D
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[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Tim Trent
Sent: 03 May 2007 13:16
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: UK Elections and Secrecy
I have just been to vote. I am a good boy, apparently. But I have a
perennial rant about the alleged secrecy of UK elections.
As is the norm, my electoral roll number has been logged against the
numbered ballot papers I was given. Thus, after an act of parliament
has
been passed to investigate electoral corruption, my vote can be known
and
recorded against my name.
We live in a good democracy and our parliament is not particularly
corrupt,
despite individual corrupt politicians, and, as such, this act is
unlikely
to be passed. But picture a less good democracy with the sudden rise to
power of the neo Crypto Fascist Party.
They do not like anyone who votes against them, and their new victory
means
that they pass this act and log all the votes. People are then
questioned
about their political beliefs, and some of them find the questioning
harmful
to health.
Am I alone in finding this non anonymous system to be somewhat
threatening?
And also in what way does it comply with the sensitive data element of
the
DPA 1998?
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