The fee is probably useful as a deterrent to frivolous requests. Thus the
apparent deficit of £2.50 may well be excellent arithmetic, but poor
economics.
-----Original Message-----
From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Tim Salmon
Sent: 05 July 2006 10:04
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [data-protection] Cost of photocopying
Consideration should be given to the actual cost of having to process a
cheque for £10.00 .
I believe the accepted wisdom is that within a local authority the cost is
about £12.15 per cheque.
Regards
Tim Salmon
Information Governance Officer
-----Original Message-----
From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Tim Turner
Sent: 04 July 2006 11:23
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [data-protection] Cost of photocopying
FOI Sections 68 onwards extend the definition of personal data. Section 69
is the bit being referred to here. Of course, the extension does not apply
to the private sector.
I'm not sure that this makes things more bearable. The private sector can
use the Durant judgement, sometimes to unlikely and extreme conclusions, to
withhold personal information. Section 68 etc increase the burden of
complexity for the public sector, and allows the applicant to request any
unstructured personal data. Effectively, you can make two requests to the
public authority - standard subject access, and an additional request for
unstructured personal data subject to the FOI charging regime. The fact that
charging can be burdensome and complicated means that some PAs don't bother
to get into the distinction - they charge the £10 and give everything. So it
could mean more work, and poses a genuine question about whether it's worth
spending the time trying to charge for it.
Tim Turner
Data Protection / FOI Officer
Legal and Property Services
Wigan Council
-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Trent [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Tue 04 July 2006 11:05
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [data-protection] Cost of photocopying
Lucy, can you give a source for that information, please? I was always
under the impression that it as £10 and £0 only. Your information makes the
burden on an organisation bearable, I'm just struggling to locate it.
-----Original Message-----
From: FINCHAM LUCY [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 04 July 2006 11:03
To: Tim Trent
Subject: Re: [data-protection] Cost of photocopying
Unless it is unstructured personal data held in manual form, in which case
the same fee structure as for FOIA can be used (which includes charging for
disbursements, if you so wish). Also if this unstructured manual data is
Personnel related, it can be exempt if you want.
Regards
Lucy
Date sent: Tue, 4 Jul 2006 10:50:33 +0100
Send reply to: Tim Trent <[log in to unmask]>
From: Tim Trent <[log in to unmask]>
Organization: Marketing Improvement
Subject: Re: [data-protection] Cost of photocopying
To: [log in to unmask]
> I fear you have £10 and that is your lot.
>
> This is why a malicious campaign of SARs can have a serious impact on
> the bottom line of any organisation.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Brenda Scourfield
> Sent: 04 July 2006 09:10
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [data-protection] Cost of photocopying
>
> An old chestnut, but can someone remind me whether we can charge per
> sheet for photocopying for a DP Subject Access Request. I seem to
> remember that that the time taken cannot be be charged for, unlike FOI.
>
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> All archives of messages are stored permanently and are
> available to the world wide web community at large at
> http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/data-protection.html
> If you wish to leave this list please send the command
> leave data-protection to [log in to unmask]
> All user commands can be found at : -
> http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/help/commandref.htm
> Any queries about sending or receiving message please send to the list
owner
> [log in to unmask]
> (all commands go to [log in to unmask] not the list please)
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> All archives of messages are stored permanently and are
> available to the world wide web community at large at
> http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/data-protection.html
> If you wish to leave this list please send the command
> leave data-protection to [log in to unmask]
> All user commands can be found at : -
> http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/help/commandref.htm
> Any queries about sending or receiving message please send to the list
owner
> [log in to unmask]
> (all commands go to [log in to unmask] not the list please)
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
All archives of messages are stored permanently and are
available to the world wide web community at large at
http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/data-protection.html
If you wish to leave this list please send the command
leave data-protection to [log in to unmask]
All user commands can be found at : -
http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/help/commandref.htm
Any queries about sending or receiving message please send to the list owner
[log in to unmask]
(all commands go to [log in to unmask] not the list please)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
**********************************************************************
This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended
solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed.
If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager.
This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by
MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses using Sophos anti-virus
software.
www.mimesweeper.com
www.sophos.com
**********************************************************************
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
All archives of messages are stored permanently and are
available to the world wide web community at large at
http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/data-protection.html
If you wish to leave this list please send the command
leave data-protection to [log in to unmask]
All user commands can be found at : -
http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/help/commandref.htm
Any queries about sending or receiving message please send to the list owner
[log in to unmask]
(all commands go to [log in to unmask] not the list please)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
NOTE: This communication is sent for and on behalf of the London Borough of
Newham.
However the views expressed within it are not necessarily the views or
policies of the Council. The unauthorised use, disclosure, copying or
alteration of this communication and any attachments is forbidden. This
communication and any attachments are intended for the addressee only and
may be confidential. If this has come to you in error you should immediately
permanently destroy it.
You should take no action based on it or copy or show it to anyone and
telephone the Council immediately with any issues on 0208 430 4444 or any
other number provided in the communication. Please note that electronic
communication is not considered a secure medium for sending information and
therefore maybe at risk.
We advise that you understand and accept this lack of security when using
this form of communication with us. Although we have taken steps to ensure
that this email and attachments are free from any virus, we advise that in
keeping with good computing practice the recipient should ensure they are
actually virus free and should run current anti-virus software. Please note
that email may be monitored and checked to safeguard the council network
from viruses, hoax messages or abuse of the Council's systems. Action may be
taken against any malicious and deliberate attempts to infect the council
network.
The information contained in this email maybe subject to public disclosure
under the Freedom of Information Act 2000. Unless the information is legally
exempt from disclosure the confidentiality of this email and your reply
cannot be guaranteed.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
All archives of messages are stored permanently and are
available to the world wide web community at large at
http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/data-protection.html
If you wish to leave this list please send the command
leave data-protection to [log in to unmask]
All user commands can be found at : -
http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/help/commandref.htm
Any queries about sending or receiving message please send to the list owner
[log in to unmask]
(all commands go to [log in to unmask] not the list please)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
All archives of messages are stored permanently and are
available to the world wide web community at large at
http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/data-protection.html
If you wish to leave this list please send the command
leave data-protection to [log in to unmask]
All user commands can be found at : -
http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/help/commandref.htm
Any queries about sending or receiving message please send to the list owner
[log in to unmask]
(all commands go to [log in to unmask] not the list please)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|