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Subject:

Re: Withholding of Marks

From:

Duncan James <[log in to unmask]>

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Duncan James <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Thu, 11 May 2006 13:05:34 +0100

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Cheers Chris,

Not anti-union I assure you; I just a habit of playing extreme Devils
advocate in situations and like to make sure every option is covered!

Duncan

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From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Charles Christacopoulos
Sent: 11 May 2006 12:46
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [data-protection] Withholding of Marks

Good day,

Duncan James wrote:
> My understanding (which changes every 5 minutes) is that the exams will be
> marked and the scripts returned to the University but without the
marks/mark
> sheet attached.
> 
> Technically the scripts are university property, so withholding them would
> be counted as theft, so I can't imagine any Union would permit it's
members
> to commit a crime in their name (like wise I'm not so sure they would
> discourage them too much either).

Easy tiger :-)  Pursue this line and words like terror, hostages, and 
all sorts of similar stuff will emerge.

> 
> If that is the case, then the question Mark Hoult asked earlier about how
> the disclosure of comments is affected by this shouldn't be a problem, we
> should have the comments on the scripts and hopefully be in a position to
> submit them within the normal 40 days. Unless of course they withhold the
> comments as well or don't mark them at all.
> 
> If they do hold onto the scripts though 

which the institution gave to them in the first place ... when - 
arguably - it could have marked the scripts with other examiners (not a 
good idea mind you).

> I would be interested what stance
> the ICO will take when we all fail to disclose. Would they issue notices
> against us all for each individual student request or as a "group
booking"?
> Given the potential numbers involved and the ICO's usual rapid response
> time, would it achieve anything? The standard slap on the wrist letter of
> "don't do that again" isn't going to do much in this case and beyond
> disciplining the staff involved after the event, what could we viably have
> done? Have they given any indication of what action they will take?
> 
> From our own point of view, I'm hoping that the letter we sent yesterday
> will alleviate the problem somewhat. I can't imagine too many staff will
> want to go without pay for a long period. If not, I will have my fingers
> crossed that the five month rule will give us enough breathing space to
sort
> the problem out (Yes I know, far to trusting).
> 
> Anyway, I'm not sure if that was a rant, a plea or a useful contribution
but
> it's the most I've contributed to this board!

or an anti union stance - which is fair enough if that is what you 
believe - as long as you do not accept any pay award that may come your 
way as a result of the strike.

> 
> Happy days ahead for us all!

Aye, :-)

Regards
Charles

-- 
Charles Christacopoulos, Management Information Officer,
Strategic Information Management, Tower Building,
University of Dundee, Dundee, DD1 4HN, Scotland, United Kingdom.
Tel: 44(0)1382-344891. Fax: 44(0)1382-348845.
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